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Breeding Panthers

squillaci7 May 12, 2006 12:27 AM

I have two gorgeous ambilobe panthers. The male is around nine months and the female is around 7-8months. I have been treying to breed them now for a few weeks. Once a week I take her out and put her in his cage. He usually gets a little excited but shed immedietly puffs up and runs away. He then loses interest and they will sit at opposite ends of the cage. I don't know if it's her or him. Any recomendations to help give this matchmaker a boost. Thanks for advice

Replies (7)

WillHayward May 12, 2006 01:12 AM

I beleive that a lot of people breeding are waiting until the female is past 10 months of age, in addition to being a healthy weight and good size. Personally 10 months as worked well for me and I was able to regulate the amount of eggs down to a healthy number for young females.

I would also like to suggest an article for good reading called Observations from a Keeper
By Steven Deckers, featured in the latest issue on the "CHAMELEONS! Online E-zine". It has some very very interesting notes that may help you.
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CANADIAN CHAMELEONS

captotterboy May 12, 2006 01:23 PM

speakign of which, for veileds, is it better to put the male in the female cage or the female in the male cage or whichever is bigger on the second tuesday of the month during a full moon and a planetary alignment?

jeff

dianedfisher May 12, 2006 03:11 PM

I would suggest neutral territory so that a rift in the paradox doesn't cause a quantum quark. Diane
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dianedfisher@yahoo.com

My 3 CWD-Avanyu, Tripod and Drago
Valentino, Veiled Chameleon
Chyam, Nosy Be Panther Chameleon

captotterboy May 12, 2006 09:29 PM

Yeah, i am still trying to master that whole space-time continuom thing. I didnt thing i had to throw chameleons breeding into my equations until now. Crap!!!!! im going to need more chalk and a bigger blackboard now.

dianedfisher May 14, 2006 07:45 AM

Be VERY careful, you and the Charlie could get sucked into a worm hole and we'll never hear from you again. Diane
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dianedfisher@yahoo.com

My 3 CWD-Avanyu, Tripod and Drago
Valentino, Veiled Chameleon
Chyam, Nosy Be Panther Chameleon

captotterboy May 14, 2006 10:05 AM

dont worry, i was going to let charlie wrap his tail around something on this side so that we can find our way back

jeff

kinyonga May 15, 2006 10:21 AM

squillaci7 said..."I have two gorgeous ambilobe panthers. The male is around nine months and the female is around 7-8months"...I never breed my panther or veiled female chameleons until they are at least a year old. My reasoning has been why should I make them produce fertile eggs until I know they are full grown themselves? In the wild they may breed earlier, but in captivity IMHO its not necessary. My female veileds and panthers lay clutches in the range of 20 to 25 eggs and seem to live good long lives.

squillaci7 also said..."Once a week I take her out and put her in his cage. He usually gets a little excited but shed immedietly puffs up and runs away. He then loses interest and they will sit at opposite ends of the cage. I don't know if it's her or him"...the puffing up and running away are signs that she is not receptive. He is doing what he should by not trying to mate with a non-receptive female. If he continued to go after her, she would likely bite him.

captotterboy asked..."for veileds, is it better to put the male in the female cage or the female in the male cage or whichever is bigger on the second tuesday of the month during a full moon and a planetary alignment? "..leaving the part about the second Tuesday of the month and the full moon to the astrologers, I put the female veiled into the male's cage....but first of all I hold her OUTSIDE his cage to allow them to see each other. Their reactions determine whether I will actually bother to put her into his cage or not. If she is receptive (remains calm colors and doesn't hiss, gape, darken the background colors, rock back and forth) and he recognizes her as a female by reacting like he is interested in mating (NOT showing the aggressive signs of coiling and uncoiling the tail, holding one hand up close to his body, etc.) then I place her into his cage a short distance away from him. Some males don't recognize the female as a female at first so if the female is showing receptive, give the male a few minutes to calm down and you still might be able to put her into his cage. You still have to watch their reactions when they are first together to make sure that the intention of the male is to mate and be ready to remove the female if necessary. If all is well I leave them together until she starts to show that she is no longer receptive (background colors turn almost black, hissing, swaying, gaping.etc.) and then remove her from his cage ASAP.

I follow the same procedure for panther chameleons.

Will, I read the e-zine article and found the nail growth very interesting. I would like to know how long his female chameleons live and what the sizes of the clutches are.

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