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Ok i saw someone had some super cinnys or super pastel cinnamons (not too sure), which i think were dark solid grey in color and looked awesome...but my question is to know whether the cinnamon genes are recessive or dominate...and what does it take to get that dark grey/blue solid ball python...thanks...
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(soon to be the owner of an albino ball)
0.2 normal ball pythons
0.2 normal Redtail boa
1.0 Hypo Redtail boa
1.0 true Redtail boa
1.1 100% Het Albino Redtail boa
1 baby sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 Baby Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Baby Red Uromastyx
0.1 GF Eryn (WC)

Cinnamons are co-dom. To get the super cinny you'd breed two Cinnamons together. That is the dark grey/black/brownish snake you see.

Someone will be sure to correct me if I'm wrong.

Right.

The gray/black super cinnamon is homozygous for the cinnamon gene (two copies, one from each parent). The heterozygous cinnamon (got the cinnamon gene from one parent and the normal version of that gene from the other) has the cinnamon pattern and color. This situation here the hets are a visible morph and the homozygous mutant are a different visible morph is classified as a co-dominant gene.

So i guess i need at least a one cinnamon to get to the super right?..im thinking of possibly starting a cinnamon project in the near future...
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(soon to be the owner of an albino ball)
0.2 normal ball pythons
0.2 normal Redtail boa
1.0 Hypo Redtail boa
1.0 true Redtail boa
1.1 100% Het Albino Redtail boa
1 baby sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 Baby Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Baby Red Uromastyx
0.1 GF Eryn (WC)

Cinnamon X Cinnamon = Super Cinnamon

Pastel Jungle X Cinnamon = Pewter

Pewter X Cinnamon = Silver Bullet

Hope this helps.

Greg
Graziani Reptiles

Just for fun here...

if you use a killer bee (or maybe just a bumblebee) instead of a pastel jungle then later in the equation bred that to a super cinnamon, would you theoretically wind up with black widow spiders? lol.
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PHWyvern

ROTFLMAO!!! I like that.

Quig

Thanks sooo much for the pictures....its really exciting to know that with the right plan and time, i could one day have something like that...thanks again...

-Craig
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(soon to be the owner of an albino ball)
0.2 normal ball pythons
0.2 normal Redtail boa
1.0 Hypo Redtail boa
1.0 true Redtail boa
1.1 100% Het Albino Redtail boa
1 baby sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 Baby Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Baby Red Uromastyx
0.1 GF Eryn (WC)

some of the best looking snakes!

I am amazed at the look of that pewter. Hopefuly next year for me. Thanks for sharing.

BTW, what combos are you working on this year that you can share info on now?

Florida Reptile Room
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Alice Cobb