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Dominant Ghost?

tsusnakeguy May 12, 2006 09:34 AM

I see adds on the classifieds every now and the for a Dominant Ghost. What is that? I know what a ghost is but not quite sure what a dominant ghost is.
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1.1 Motley het butter corns
0.1 Snow corn
0.1 Okeetee corn
1.0 Anery mutt corn
0.1 Stripe Ghost corn
0.1 Amelanistic corn het carmel
2.1 Colombian Redtails
1.0 Hypo Colombian redtail
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Anery Kenyan sand boa
0.1 Normal Kenyan sand boa

Replies (8)

BNixon May 12, 2006 09:56 AM

A dominant ghost is a ghost that when bred to a normal will produce a litter of all hypos/salmons het Anery. The Dominant Ghost carries a hypo/salmon gene from both parents while Co-Dominant Ghosts would only carry the hypo/salmon gene from one of the parents.

Here is some more information on Co-Dom and Dominant genes

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_codom.html
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Brandon Nixon

jayf May 12, 2006 10:25 AM

That is what the seller is trying to explain, but is using the genetic terms incorrectly.
In terms of that sellers ad, dominant should be replaced with homozygous (or super) and co-dominant should be replaced with heterozygous. The seller is speaking about the number of alleles for the hypo gene that animal possesses.

As a side note: this mis-use of genetic terms happens often, but it is still incorrect. Co-dominant and dominant refer to the genetic inheritance of a gene, they do not describe the amount of alleles one individual may have. If a ghost has one allele (heterozygous) or two alleles (super or homozygous) the genetic mutations of anery and hypo are still recessive and dominant respectivly.

Hope this makes sense to you (if not please email me and I will be glad to explain better). This is my biggest pet peeve about breeders. To me it is like a car salesmen saying that the base model of the same car is a chevy and the high end model is pontiac.
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- Jason F.

Rainshadow May 12, 2006 10:42 AM

*AMEN*...and,very well put! ("pet peeve" is an understatement! *lol*)
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EMAIL quit editing my signature!

BNixon May 12, 2006 11:16 AM

Jason, I know what you mean. Thanks for adding anything I had missed or what not, your way of explaining it was alot better, I didnt want to throw out heterozygous or homozygous simply because he might have been more so confused about the hypo trait. Plus it doesnt help that im up at 1 am in the morning trying to explain these things. Ill probably read this tomorrow and be like 'what was I thinking?!'Take Care.
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Brandon Nixon

jayf May 12, 2006 12:44 PM

Dont put down your efforts. I read what you wrote and to me that explained perfectly what the seller ment in terms of real life. You just did not explain that the seller was using improper genetics terms.

I try to explain things like this because the hobby as a whole will obviously be better off if we all are on the same page. There are already rules and proper terms for genetics, educating those who are not so familiar with them is what we need to do.

I recently found out that the site boagenetics.com is up and running. If I recal, the author of this page made a post here to gather information (I am a little sour that I got no credit for my post with my compiled list but oh well the information is the important part) and I feel that the site will prove to be very helpful.
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- Jason F.

rainbowsrus May 12, 2006 12:55 PM

HI Jason, I was the one who posted a few threads trying to gather together all the info I could on our beloved boa morphs. Mike used my compilation of data as a base for his "boagenetics.com" site. From my conversations with him, I think he would put you down as a contributor if you asked him.

BTW, you've got mail.
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)
2.7 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (adult breeders)
2.5 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (sub-adult from 2004)
4.8 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (sub-adult from 2005)
2.1 Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 Het for Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI Albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Salmon (possible super)
1.0 BCI Albino het stripe
1.0 BCI Salmon
0.1 BCI Ghost
0.1 BCI Super salmon, possible jungle
1.0 BCI Salmon, possible jungle

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

jayf May 12, 2006 01:36 PM

Sorry I did not realize it was you since the site was mentioned. Anyway, I was just being sour about it, its really not a big deal. As long as the information is available to others I am happy.
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- Jason F.

tsusnakeguy May 13, 2006 01:08 AM

I am a biology major I understand all the genetics terms just was a little curious as to why they called it so. I was getting thrown off by the anery part because if it is a ghost then it is homozygous for it so anyways thanks a lot and now I know.
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1.1 Motley het butter corns
0.1 Snow corn
0.1 Okeetee corn
1.0 Anery mutt corn
0.1 Stripe Ghost corn
0.1 Amelanistic corn het carmel
2.1 Colombian Redtails
1.0 Hypo Colombian redtail
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Anery Kenyan sand boa
0.1 Normal Kenyan sand boa

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