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I will never understand some peoples disdain for the Hybrid Forum and those who have an interest in this subject. It is true that this is considered the “dark side” by those, what, I guess they are “purists”. I can understand when they check out this forum (and they do...) and there’s a post asking about crossing a rattlesnake with a python or some such stupidity. I roll my eyes too and ignore those, as I’m sure most of us do. But I am very interested in things like borrowing the leucistic gene from the Texas Rat to perhaps bring it into a king. Or create, through selective breeding even if it means hybridizing, a solid red, orange, yellow or blue where it does not exist now. What I find far more ridiculous are these so called purists that are trying to produce a black Emerald Tree Boa, a Brazillian Rainbow Boa without the red, tri-color king “snow” or pie bald Indigo. What is the point of mucking up a gorgeous green Emerald Tree Boa? Or taking the red out of a tri-color King? They would think it more ridiculous to try to produce a Brazilian with the green of an Emerald. But wouldn’t that be more beautiful than a black freakin “pure” Emerald Tree Boa?

For me...I am bored with snakes that EVERBODY owns or has seen, and my "Pure" snakes are aberrant patterned. While I tend not to preach to the others on the Normal Forum, I also have decided not to drive a white car, or eat tasteless food. Hybrids are almost always unusual, and why people are scared of them is truly a lack of perspective on their part.

i agree totally, to me i love all snakes if "pure" or not. personally this is a hobby and if its new and differant and offers people something exciting than im all for it. as far as "pure" snakes go to each his own but i personally with never get into locality snakes. if anything hurts this hobby more than another its locality snakes. you get a gene pool that is inbred way to much. also you are creating a situation were more will be removed from the wild and populations will decline. grey bands for instance they have locality busted down not just to locality but down to which road they were cauhgt on!! why buy one when i go to juno road and just catch one!! this is definetly a problem for wild snakes more than hybrids are. but here is the disclaimer: not all species are collected as much as the grey band this is definetly the extreme of an example. i was seriously thinking of getting some locality syspila which some day i might but i will not breed them as locality, but use them with another locality to freashen the gene pool.
im done rambling
adam 2
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hybrid breeders association
0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.0.1 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

I had to come over here and see what you guys have to say about "locality" snakes. All i see is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. You need to get educated on alterna and their habitat. If you actually think you can cruise over to Juno Rd. and pick up alterna at will then you have never collected west texas. Very few alterna are caught in a season compared to other snakes. The gene pools are extreamly clean because the snakes have such a vast range. They are so fossorial that they spend very little time in the open. Show me an example of alterna being so inbred that it has caused problems. It takes a lot of effort to raise the babies and work with them. Not as easy as the syspila you mention that can be collected in large numbers in early may.
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Steve W.