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Reptile Magazine has agreed to run a story on the Boca Grande situation in its August Edition........with nationwide circulation this will help with a solution to the Boca Grande Communities take on what they should be doing to preserve a species population for the greater good and hopefully find many who would with to adopt an adult male and female to help control the population there

hope this helps

Kevin Schneider

Iguana Rescue of Southern California

For adoption, I recommend sets of the same sex, such as 0,3 or 3,0, kept in seperate roomy cages with stuff they can climb, until their owner can find out which ones get along well together. True sexed pairs would only result in fertile eggs, and some people would incubate them out of curiosity, even many times over a five year oeriod. Then, the only solution would be to release them, unless the peson is willing to advertise at Kingsnake and go to the trouble of of getting his babies weaned onto 3/4 inch crickets, 3/8's at least. That might necessitate de-worming and/or oral antibiotics. Few wild hatchlings make it to adulthood.

An owner can easily avoid fertile egging by having his/her females spayed. Then I would imagine they could be kept in groups of 1,2 or 1,3 in extremely roomy cages. But even so, wild adults have a higher risk of unprovoked attacks on cage-metes and unwary human fingers. The other way to get rid of firtile eggs is to let them be laid, and then freezing them. But I'm talking about hobby-parents of fertile eggs who want to raise clutches.

My recommendation for population control (as the regulars here already know) has always been a proven sharpshooter peace officer with a chocked .410 shotgun (the smallest shotgun). What would it be like as a wild iguana suddenly confind to jail for the rest of his/her life, for the amusement for human beings. Super-stress! I know my opinion is way politically incorrect, but it's the most expedient solution, and would cause the least suffering. Consider the slow death of an improperly cared-for captive iguana - that goes double for a WC adult iguana.

Roger

Roger

LOL you are way to funny to be a real person......you must be writting this from your prison cell..........they actually let you have a computer and not give you your meds.........you need to be over on the Kill a Ctenosaura Group site with others of your same mind set.......shotgunning for Igunas site has a place for you also......such an intelligent person you claim to be....and yet so mindless with no solutions.....only same old complaints........what in the world are you doint on group site that has the best interests of Cyclura and Ctenosaura as a first priority.......the only Ctenosaura we work with are adults because they calm down faster to a regular routine....if you know your animals then there is no biteing and there is no fighting......if you give them at least 1000 sp feet of multilevel environment from tropical to desert to choose from you might have an idea of what you are talking about ........unfortunately you are only repeating what you have read or heard from someone else.....the Adult Ctenosaura are calm if you respect their genetic behaviours.....of course you would have to live with them to know that

Kevin Schneider

Iguana Rescue Southern California

any advil. I'll take six.

hehe, I read that as ANVIL. I figured it was to drop on his head...
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Is this forum moderated at all? Cant trolls be removed?
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Trolls can be removed, Carole, but only of they break the TOS. I'm watching closely.

Yes I do know that totally untame young-adult C. similis can be tamed. I did it once, it wasn't too hard. She became an absolute pussycat. I do not know about advanced-adult C. similis taming. Maybe I'm wrong about thinking there is only one way to rid the island of the lizard.

I do wonder about the technology to be used to capture them though.

Roger

Kevin, wake up and smell the coffee. Neither you, nor an article in Reptiles, are going to drum up even a handful of people that are willing to take on a pair or small group of these iguanas. You've heard from many of the more experienced keepers and breeders right here and your plan just doesn't seem realistic to any of them. Many of them have stated how their experience had shown them that wild caught adults do not acclimate to captivity well. I've had the same experience myself. No one is disagreeing with you that the Boca Grande iguanas are a problem but personally, I'd rather see them die a quick death than a slow, painful, terror-filled one.

You have mentioned your 2000 square foot facility on several occasions. Do you have any photos or a website about your Iguana Sanctuary?

But then, I'm not all that sensitive about how a subset of one forum's members think of me, just because I express an idea. Lenonism suppresses ideas, so that a peson has to consult a rule book to find out what is legal to say. People wanted me banned for expressing an idea. The moderator was watching me closely for the same reason, or perhaps readers' response to my expression. Freedom loses ground inch by inch in many different ways.

I actually do feel sorry for the island iguanas, because most of them will live to experience the eradication, whatever form it takes. They live at least into their teens, and possibly longer, under the care of a good herper. Wild ones probably have a shorter life, but still into their teens. I can't see the island people letting their problem with them go on for another 10 or 15 years, from the tone of their discussions now.

Roger

The best idea I've read about is to use the iguanas as promotional material to attract nature-loving vacationers.

Roger

Roger, I know you're not a troll. You've been around KS and other forums for quite some time now and I enjoy the fact that you are willing to voice your opinions. Keep it up!!

Roger, you are not whom I was speaking of...
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WOW...all talk and no action. no im not a newbie but i am not a regular on this forum. i have been reading about this situation for a while though. and here is my opinion. roger have you ever heard of animal abuse? a shotgun?! kevin i commend you for actually trying to help. that is awesome that REPTILES agreed to make an article about the situation. who knows?...i have faith that of all the readers out there a few of them will take it upon them to help. you never know.....
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