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Last night, I checked in on some hatching eggs. Three clutches of normals. All looked fine, until I got to the third clutch.
I saw something that didn't seem right. Very odd looking...
Naturally, as I was looking at it, He/she pulled itself back in the egg. So I waited, and looked again an hour later... got a 2 second peek. This went on until 3am in the morning. I woke up and check on this egg at 9am. It was half way out. All I could say was WOW. It wasn't until later in the afternoon, that it finally came the rest of the way out. With fully charged batteries, I took a few pics.
Background information on the clutch: Came from a WC gravid female from Ghana. Four eggs, this one is out, the other three are piped, all noses look normal... so far...
Any idea what it is?? Oh, it's a female.....
I welcome any suggestions or comments.

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Ron Billingsley
www.ronbillingsleyreptiles.com

Whatever she is, she's gorgeous.

Quig

Congrats.I don't know what it is, but that's one bad ass snake.

That is exciting!!!
Always hot to see something different...

Harold

dont know what that is buts sweet as hell and i want one.

That is a gorgeous ball. Definitely one of the best that has been posted recently. Good luck with her.

ep
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wow, that is a nice surprise!!!

I havn't seen any like her, she is awsome!!!

cant offer any insight, best of luck with her

TomChambers

Hi Ron,
Congratulations on hatching out an incredible looking animal. I wonder why almost every time someone hatches out some incredible new Morph it is almost always a Female. No matter what you do it will take at least two times longer to prove out. LOL That said, I sure would like to be in your shoes.

I wish you the best of luck with her,
Albey

Albey's "Too Cool" Reptiles

The list that you just put my name on for the first clutch that she hatches. I would like one pair of hets. I am officially asking right now to be on the list for the first clutch that you offer for sale. Please put my name on the list.

Sincerely, Kyle

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Kyle J. Stevens
Royal Variations Ltd.

Many a false step is made from standing still.

because I say that is genetic. That looks different from a jungle. That is in my opinion a unique animal and more than likely genetic.
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Kyle J. Stevens
Royal Variations Ltd.

Many a false step is made from standing still.

Well,we all know where Ron is right now... haha

Too nice!!
You just gave countless ball fanatics a mental meltdown!

Best of luck with her Ron!
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

That is the coolest looking snake I have ever seen...
and I want one!

Never know what those wild caught gravids are going to hatch out next do we?
Perhaps we will see more of this kind pop up.

Do you think it's a mutation of the pastel gene?
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-Man fears the beast in the Wolf because he does not understand the beast within himself.

My birthday present?

WOW!!!! You r one lucky ...she is so beautiful!! Please post some pics when she grows up.??

Wow, she's very pretty. Congradulations!

Do you have pics of the parents?
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Steve Markevich

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I love it, that is one cool looking snake.

Kyle

We hatched a female two years ago in a VPI Axanthic clutch...looks just like the one we hatched belly and all....

I had one a couple years ago like that..really yellow ,reduced pattern and the head cap too........cool......

mine was dead in egg at like day 52.....

wow.......should have cut the egg?..........NO...it would have died anyways......

...NICE snake....keep it and breed it........for sure...

in case it is something.....

Nice...congrats.......
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JYReptiles

Scales-N-Tails Reptiles ltd........Pa

Kevin Mc. Has some of the it looks pretty much the same. Also Brian Kollwitz has had one on his table for a few shows. That is a very kool baby. Bring it to B-ham this weekend. See ya David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL

I'd be tempted to keep the entire clutch to see if any of the others carry those genes. Looks like a pastel with a really different pattern variation.

What great luck!

Cheryl

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I just realized who you were, don't tell me that was in with those WC females you were selling at Indy a couple months ago??

Beautiful animal!

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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

np

I know i'm new to BPs, but doesn't that look an awful lot like a spider? I have been trying to figure out how to tell the difference between certain morphs that i see, and all i can see is something that is a few shades different, except for the big morphs that are obvious, like super cinny's, pieds, spiders, etc...anyone willing to help me out here?
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A.J.
1.0.0- Amel Motley Corn- Valentine (R.I.P 5/20/05)
0.1.0- Snow Corn- Artica
1.0.0- Normal Corn- Ember
1.0.0- Ball Python- G.T.

A spider would have white all along the bottom of it coming up the sides. no matter what it is she is a hot little snake...

good luck again, Harold

The biggest similarity I see in the two are the reduced "alien eyes".The Spider has white, yellow and orange flecking on the bottom of the sides. It also has reduced black. The pattern is gold/tan color. The Spider has an unusual head pattern. Here are a couple of pics, not the best but hope you can see the difference. Jon

no is it possible that this is a pastel spider? and because of the pastel it has a diminish spider pattern?
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A.J.
1.0.0- Amel Motley Corn- Valentine (R.I.P 5/20/05)
0.1.0- Snow Corn- Artica
1.0.0- Normal Corn- Ember
1.0.0- Ball Python- G.T.

Here is a link to N.E.R.D.s website with pics of a Pastel Spider aka Bumble Bee for more comparison. Jon
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ball_bumblebee.html

I really appreciate the help here, been so lost lately
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A.J.
1.0.0- Amel Motley Corn- Valentine (R.I.P 5/20/05)
0.1.0- Snow Corn- Artica
1.0.0- Normal Corn- Ember
1.0.0- Ball Python- G.T.

I think it is a jungle. That is one awesome baby.
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Brian n Chrissy

"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

She's really pretty whatever she is. A pastal reduced pattern jungle?

Very odd facial markings too...I really thing you should box her up after she has a few meals and mail her to me up here in Canada.

Awesome animal!

The odds of that snake being genetic are slim. Here are the reasons why:

1. It looks premature... smaller than normal and its head has that premature "look" to it. Premature babies tend to be "different" in color and pattern.
2. The egg it was in didnt look too healthy. I have seen very weird babies hatch out of moldy dying eggs. Might have had a dead twin in there that never got going...
3. It came from a gravid import. The stress the females go thru during shipping does have a negative effect on the eggs. Changes in temps also can do weird things to the developing babies. Remember than once a snake lays the babies are already developing inside. Thats why there are veins ect in the eggs.

That baby looks amazing and I hope I am wrong and it is genetic. But just like jungles and most ringers I feel like you have a non genetic oddity.

Good luck
Raul

It looks like an AWESOME genetic reduced. They have the area in front of the eye lacking black. It is absolutely an extreme looking animal! The color is quite soemthing.

Does the adult female lack the black stripe just in front of the eye?

Kevin

>>Last night, I checked in on some hatching eggs. Three clutches of normals. All looked fine, until I got to the third clutch.
>>I saw something that didn't seem right. Very odd looking...
>>Naturally, as I was looking at it, He/she pulled itself back in the egg. So I waited, and looked again an hour later... got a 2 second peek. This went on until 3am in the morning. I woke up and check on this egg at 9am. It was half way out. All I could say was WOW. It wasn't until later in the afternoon, that it finally came the rest of the way out. With fully charged batteries, I took a few pics.
>>Background information on the clutch: Came from a WC gravid female from Ghana. Four eggs, this one is out, the other three are piped, all noses look normal... so far...
>>Any idea what it is?? Oh, it's a female.....
>>I welcome any suggestions or comments.
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>>Ron Billingsley
>>www.ronbillingsleyreptiles.com
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www.newenglandreptile.com

wow, you can go out and play in a lightning storm or swim in shark infested waters and be perfectly fine.
good for you
surge
PS.dont bother playing the lotto anymore.

Wow, someone seems bitter. Whats with the negative attitude?
People keep saying it is just a jungle, that snake is not even the same sport.

Very nice snake, hope it proves out.

-Grant

sorrye if the post seemed negative. but its positive i said those thing because it would be extremely unlikely to hatch out that animal and have those things happen to you in a lifetime.

...is the name that leaped out at me immediately-just look at the expression on her face, plus the fact that it was a crazy, random occurence lol.

I too believe it will prove genetic, and let me be next on the list for het offspring. CONGRATULATIONS on a fantastic animal!

Brad Chambers

Does anyone know??? Is it a new morph? Whatever she is, she is the most stunning animal I've ever seen.

Are you going to breed her back to her father?

Thank you so much for sharing.
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Christine
Tails With Scales Reptiles
Happiness is biting my snake back!

I would call it a Tiger Ball, right color, and has the markings of a Tiger. OR, since it looks like a Bumblebee (Spider x Pastel) I would call it a YellowJacket, or Hornet Ball.

NICE

Dave

i can see it now.... move over bumble bees....

Hornet Ball.