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Aberrant Orange Blood Boa clutch - long

johnberry May 18, 2006 12:16 PM

Aberrant Orange Blood Boa clutch

This clutch was born 3 days ago ... my High Orange Central American female was bred by male Blood boa. I was expecting normal looking 100% Bloods(100% pure Central American, no Colombian blood mixed) as you can see (pics below) when the babies came out half the clutch are high Orange kinda like mum !!

I purchased her (from Ben Siegal) as an adult so don't really know what she looked like as a baby, but she is an exceptional iridescent Orange color. Ben tells me she came in as a Costa Rican farmed baby several years ago ... so why the Orange babies ??

The consensus is that she is either (1) het for Blood and these are Orange Blood babies (they have black eyes just like baby Blood boas, the normal sibling 100% hets don't) or (2) she is a new kind of codominant High Orange mutation and so the babies are "new morph" High Orange, 100% het Bloods or (3) She is a "new morph" codominant High Orange but her mutation works like the Blood boa mutation, so if fact these are a new line of High Orange Blood boas ...I'm happy either way

My Blood female is due to drop in a few more weeks ... so I will compare the babies ... but of course the only way to be sure is to breed the babies back to Mum or breed her with a normal and she what the results are.

Anyway, thought everyone might like to see these. When they have shed I'll post some better pics.

Thanks, John





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John Berry Reptiles LLC

www.johnberryreptiles.com
www.investmentmorphs.com

Replies (27)

michaelburton May 18, 2006 12:30 PM

Wow, that's an awesome story. It must be hard to stop stareing at them. They look like a bunch of beautiful baby bloods. I would guess that your female is het for blood just because they have the blood color and the black eyes. But it would be great if it was a new morph and those babies were also het for blood. Do you have any pictures of the female?
Michael Burton

Gabor May 18, 2006 01:45 PM

I think they are blood boas but im not an expert with them. I dont have any and i only seen pictures of them. Anyway, good job and great litter. They are extreme!!!
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Gabor Kaminski

michaelburton May 18, 2006 10:40 PM

Has anyone else heard of breeders that are working with a new morph sell poss hets as normals so someone doesn't get really lucky, produce babies and undercut the market price? Maybe the female was a poss het for blood, but was sold as a normal central american. Just a thought.
Michael Burton

craig k. May 19, 2006 05:44 AM

I know I have sold poss. het snows as normals, but usually just the males, I would guess others have done it with more expensive morphs.

johnberry May 19, 2006 08:57 AM

... just to clarify, the mother came in from CA as a farmed baby import ... so the clutch she came from was produced somewhere in Central America .. hence she is a new blood line het Blood Boa ... several people have suggested calling this line "Berry Bloods" so as now to confuse this new line with the original Bloods.

Regards, John
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John Berry Reptiles LLC

www.johnberryreptiles.com
www.investmentmorphs.com

johnberry May 19, 2006 02:01 PM

That should read, so as NOT to confuse the Blood lines

thanks, John
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John Berry Reptiles LLC

www.johnberryreptiles.com
www.investmentmorphs.com

ajfreptiles May 18, 2006 12:53 PM

Hello John and CONGRATS!!!! I don't know anything about blood boas except that they are beautiful!!! As for your they look Exceptional!!! Major Congrats! Andy Federico
www.ajfreptiles.com

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amiemac9 May 18, 2006 12:56 PM

They are amazing!!

Amie
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1.1 Hypo Columbian Boas
0.1 Ghost Colombian Boa "Luna"
1.0 Albino Colombian Boa "Butters"
1.0 Normal? Colombian Boa "Mars"
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1.0 100% Het T Nicaraguan Boa "Mr.T"
0.1 Anery Nicaraguan Boa "Pepper"
1.0 Reverse Stripe Nicaraguan Boa "Johnson"
0.1 Normal Nicaraguan Boa
1.0 Bluefield's NI Boa "Shadow"
0.1 Roatan Island HO Boa "Ember"
0.1 Poss. Super Hypo Hog Island Boa "Pumpkin"
1.0 Costa Rican Boa
1.0 Corn Island Boa
1.0 Panamanian Boa "Jack"
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0.1 Sears Hog Island Boa "Oink"

EnvyExotics May 18, 2006 01:05 PM

Gorgeous babies. Congrats

Spardawolf May 18, 2006 01:07 PM


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Paula
"ALWAYS LEARNING"

Have a GREAT day!!!!!!!

senorsnake May 18, 2006 01:11 PM

beautiful litter you have there! Bloods are definately one of my favorite morphs, I'm hoping to be able to get a bloody salmon project up in the future-- never see any bloods up for sale though! Very nice, wouldn't mind taking a male off your hands lol.
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0.1 Het Albino
1.0 DH-Sunglow

ChrisGilbert May 18, 2006 02:19 PM

they look like Bloods. I'll either send you an email, or give you a call. There is something you might find very interesting.

johnberry May 18, 2006 02:20 PM

Oh I forgot to add all the Orange babies have dark/black-ish eyes ...just like my other pure Blood boas (including Dad)... the normal colored 100% hets don't and neither does the female ... or for that matter any other Hypo or aberrant Central American boas in my collection ... mmhhh ... maybe they are a new line of Bloods ... thanks for all the comments ...I'll post new pics once they all shed out.

thanks, John
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John Berry Reptiles LLC

www.johnberryreptiles.com
www.investmentmorphs.com

salmonboa.com May 18, 2006 02:54 PM

They sure look like Blood boas! Congratulations!

Rich and John
Salmonboa.com

PanamaRed May 18, 2006 06:54 PM

imagine how many recessive traits are just sitting around looking like a normal.. Never find them untill the right 2 are paired and produce..

Those are sweet!
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Ed Lilley, www.constrictorsnw.com

sun_king May 18, 2006 02:40 PM

one of the cooled things I have ever seen. Looks like you picked up the winning lotto ticket there. Best of luck with proving out whether they are indeed bloods or a new morph. They are simply amazing looking.

Joe

GainesReptiles May 18, 2006 03:49 PM

They all look great! And it looks like you have a new puzzle to try to figure out in the coming years ... but indeed, a neat puzzle to deal with. I don't think you have a choice except to go back to "mum" with them.

Those with the dark eyes and orange coloration do look like Bloods.

Congrats ... Bill

vcaruso15 May 18, 2006 04:37 PM

n/p

PGoss May 18, 2006 04:50 PM

np

Psycodelic May 18, 2006 06:09 PM

It is cool to see what happens when selective breeding takes place. If your female has turned out some new codom morph and those "blood" looking babies are actually het for blood the they will produce a new designer more an ultra red blood correct?

Greg Rienert

giantkeeper May 18, 2006 06:17 PM

to me!
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BNixon May 18, 2006 06:40 PM

Outstanding litter, good job!
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Brandon Nixon

BCIexotics May 18, 2006 07:27 PM

That would be amazing if all those turned out to be bloods!!!

Nice one!!

Kevin Ivens
BCI Exotics.

Tracy Barker May 18, 2006 08:29 PM

That is awesome--they look great, and what an amazing thing to happen! Those babies look fabulous!! Remember they are also 50% het anery!! With your luck you might just hit on the pewters next litter when your female blood drops!

Tracy/VPI

ghireptiles May 18, 2006 09:55 PM

Really wild John! Those are some beautiful babies!!!
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
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RyanHomsey May 18, 2006 09:56 PM

np
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Take Care,

-Ryan Homsey

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bcijoe May 19, 2006 07:08 AM

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
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