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hello everyone,

I just got a trio of Leucs (bumble bee arrows) and I am estatic on how awesome arrow frogs are. Im very new to frogs, I know how to feed them, I know how to house them, but Im a little worried/ I have a 29 gallon tall vivarium ready for them. It has bed-a-beast (that coconut stuff) as a substrate and the humidity and temps are perfect, but I noticed that little pieces of hust (the little coconut hair thing) gets on them pretty easily and it seems like it bugs them. I was thinking should I take the substrate out and just use the gravel underneath????? Or should I just water it down more and make it more mushy??? Or just use a different substrate all together?>? Thanks for all your help

cresty

I assume you are also misting the frogs daily, and the undergravel drainage layer is separated from the Bed-a-beast coconut fiber substrate by a layer of weed cloth, and the vivarium is planted with live tropical plants of some sort, such as ferns, vining plants, mosses, etc., and you have a simple system of draining any excess water off of the bottom when the drainage area becomes saturated. You can do this with a length of aquarium airline tubing, simple as siphoning gas from a gas tank. Maybe we need to start from scratch here about setting up a permanent tank, not that what you have now won't do perfectly well for a few months, but it doesn't sound like a long-lasting solution. If the cocoanut fiber/Bed-a-beast is sticking to your frogs, the substrate is too dry. Until you can resolve the problem, simply mist them more often without worrying too much about over-saturation. Things can get pretty soggy before it becomes a problem for the frogs.

Can you post some pictures of your current set-up? That would help a lot.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

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Hey Patty,

I actually didn't put a layer of weed screen between the bed-a beast and the gravel. (Im a rookie when it comes to Vivariums) I do have 5 live plants and the frogs seem to be doing extremely well. They are eating like crazy and very active. I do have a syphon for the water so I can take it out once it gets dirty. You seem to be a very respected person in this forum and I would love for any advice you can give me on anything to do with Darts. If you can suggest any web page or even one of your own Vivarium designs I would really appreciate the help. Thank you once again!!!!!

cresty