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i was wondering...
what is the diffrence between a corn and rat snake? Are they the same snake, just called a diffrent name or something? They both look the same to me. Could someone shed some light on this for me.
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A corn snake is a type of rat snake.
Rat snake is a more general term, including all snakes in the genus Pantherophis, which used to be known as Elaphe, and several other genuses(?).
It's more like saying.. eh.. Sweet corn and yellow corn are both types of corn. Only, those are plants, rather than snakes.

Corn snakes used to be called red rat snakes. Some people still market their corns as red rat snakes, because it makes it sound fancier.

so it's kinda like "soda" and "pop". The same thing. Both are carbonated bevarges.
so, can rats and corns inter breed? and if they do, are they a hybrid?
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Ah.. I wouldn't quite say soda & pop.. More like.. cola & pop. Cola is definitely a pop, but not all pop is cola. (corns are rat snakes, but not all rat snakes are corns, and there is some difference between them, not just names).

It depends on the species of rat snake you're breeding them with. My specialty would be North American rat snakes. I love just about anything in the Pantherophis genus. The Pantherophis genus includes things like corn snakes, everglades rat snakes, black rat snakes, gray rat snakes, emory rats, texas rats, yellow rats, rusty rats and bubblegum rats.

Outside of the Pantherophis genus(which used to be called Elaphe, and was just changed.. about a year ago?), you also have several other species. Look through the boards here, and you'll see posts about mandarin rats, blue beauties, subocs, and a ton of different species. Now, I don't know how many of those can interbreed, but just about everything in the Pantherophis genus can interbreed.

In fact, some hybrids are fairly commonplace. Creamsicle corn snakes are a hybrid between corn snakes & emory rat snakes.

ok, i think i got it now. Thanx ^_^
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
0.2.0 Dwarf Hamsters (Tipsy and Bubblegum)
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula (Goopy)
1.0.0 Boyfriend (Brian)

Most of what you say is correct, but a few of your points are off the mark.

The genus Pantherophis is made up of New World members of the genus Elaphe that at one time included both New and Old World Rat Snakes. These snakes are not as closely related as once thought, so they were given their own genus.
A Creamsicle Corn Snake is not a hybrid because this color morph is produced by crossing members of the same species. Both Corns and Great Plains Rat Snakes are subspecies of guttatus. You would consider a Creamsicle Corn to be a non-natural intergrade.

A picture of a Pantherophis guttatus emoryi, a "Great Plains Rat Snake"

My bad. I wasn't thinking about that at all. I was just talking about creamsicles with someone a couple days ago, too, and it never clicked when I wrote that on here.