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Possible Extreme Hypo. Opinions Please

kingsnaken May 26, 2006 05:58 PM

I got this girl from Terry Dunham in Daytona last year. She was black and orange. She seems to be getting lighter with each shed. Here is a before and some afters. The one next to the rock is the before (back in September). The other two were from tonight. Any opinions? Thanks, Derek

Replies (5)

mking May 26, 2006 06:36 PM

No its not an extreme but its a very clean hypo. Its got some VP starting or possibly pin-bannded.Very beautiful snake, good buy!

davester May 26, 2006 08:42 PM

Sweet, I love that pic of him "chillen" on the rock. Now that he's getting bigger you may be noticing his true colors and maybe a little vanishing pattern. Being Dunham lineage I'm sure he's got potential for extreme offspring. When you see an extreme their is no doubt about it.
Love the head pattern too,
Dave

davester May 26, 2006 08:47 PM

OOpps, I ment "her" not "him", Get some Hondies!!

Rtdunham May 28, 2006 08:59 AM

>>I got this girl from Terry Dunham in Daytona last year. She was black and orange. She seems to be getting lighter with each shed. Here is a before and some afters. The one next to the rock is the before (back in September). The other two were from tonight. Any opinions? Thanks, Derek
>>
Hi Derek,

It's always good to hear an animal is improving over time, since some darken, get tipping, etc. I'd agree the animal probably isn't an "extreme". But IMHO "extreme" is currently a subjective term: An animal is an extreme if most people believe it is an extreme. In other words, there's no simple genetic trait yet demonstrated that can define an animal as an extreme: the lighter they are, the more people conclude they're an extreme; the darker, the more people characterize them as "normal" hypos. There are many animals in between. So animals at the extreme end (double meaning intended) of the continuum can be declared to be "extreme hypos" because everyone would agree they are. Many others will be extremes to one person, not to another. And of course a lot of it has to do with how many others the individual has seen, for comparison. The internet and kingsnake.com are great for facilitating the sharing of pictures, so each of us can have "seen" many more specimens than would have been possible just a decade or so ago, when you'd have to see them live or from print pictures passed around. Last note: the risk in buying extremes is that a seller may conclude an animal is an extreme that the buyer might conclude is not. So seeing the specimen being bought--in person or in very good pics--is important, since it's the buyer who has to decide what it is, and all of us are getting more accustomed to the standard only with experience, as we see more and more. It would be neat if it were as simple as knowing whether or not an animal's an amel.
peace
terry
albino tricolors

kingsnaken May 28, 2006 01:42 PM

Thank you Terry, and for selling me a very nice snake at a great price. One day, maybe she will produce some Extremes for me. Derek

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