well not really. But the wild caught garter that we found a few weeks ago is now eating pinkys. I waited untill he was eating fish and then a rubbed a thawed frozen pinky with fish and stuck it in the fish bowl with a couple of rosie reds. Well I came home a couple of hours later and the fish and pinkys were eaten! I hold him for about a half an hour a day and hes getting really tame. thank you guys for responding to my posts. This is a great site!