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Id like to see some pics of the type 2 albinos and albino tigers. Thanks

Hi Dave! Check Al Baldago's site for really good amel pics... he's got a bunch of them.

The Baldago strain is not related to either strain Bob Clark has, they are three different strains all together, all very nice if you ask me, but probably not compatible, if bred together you would get double het offspring, not sure just hypothesizing. I am assuming "pithons" is referring to Bob Clark's second albino strain due to the fact they are listed on his sight as "Type 2 Albinos". The Baldogo's strain is very different from Clarks, while all are extremely nice their (Baldogo's) Amel supers in my opinion have the other stains beat hands down. I WANT THEM ALL!!!!But I think 14 retics is enough. Well unless kevin from Nerd wants to give me a "Black golden Child", then I probably could get another enclosure in my snake room
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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological
Roberts'Realm of Reptile Research

Type 2 albinos are the same animals that the Baldagos sell as Amels, Clark and Willbanks put the the tag type 2 on them but everyone knows that the they are the Kahl_Baldago strain aka as Amels. If you doubt this you can call Al or Cindy or even Bob Clark! lol Regards, Jim Elliott

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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological
Roberts'Realm of Reptile Research

Sorry but "type 2 albinos" are NOT THE SAME as kahl/baldogo amels LOL!!! and if anybody has any questions about amels they need to call or email al&cindy baldogo

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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological
Roberts'Realm of Reptile Research

Then can you tell me who brought the first so called type two animal into the country? And I have talked to Al. Jim

Jim, what he's saying is that it's not the same strain, which means there are at least three dif strains of albinism in retics, I spoke to al and he said he didint think his strain was compatable with bob clarks, he may have meant original starin howvever, never the less, I though Baldago strain was different just by the looks alone, they appear nicer in my opinion (coloration)
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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological
Roberts'Realm of Reptile Research

I also think the baldagos line is nice myself. Id love to get a albino tiger someday, those are the best.

In my opinion I think they look great, and even better with time and maturity, but if I had to make my choice (and I have) I would greatly prefer the strain that gives one nearly identical white phases and various strains of purple and lavender. It's just such a bonus.

Though, given time I will likely get that strain too, now that the price is finally coming down to a reasonable level.
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David Beauchemin
High End Herps.Inc
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No strain of albinism in retics beats the "purple" normal pattern albino retics, the only morph i like better is the black golden child from nerd, it is a biased opinion, I have an affinity for all black snakes, I even like Northern Black racers lol
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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological Frank Roberts & John Rodriguez
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In my opinion there are no albinos better looking than the purple and white phase normals. I greatly prefer them to albino tigers and albino supers which, in comparison, really lack any complexity and contrast in their patterns. I anticipate that the value of the normals will hold for much longer and that they will soon be more expensive than albino supers and albino tigers, which just aren't as attractive. (in my opinion)
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David Beauchemin
High End Herps.Inc
http://HighEndHerps.com

I agree that the normal albinos are better looking and the deep purple animals are very nice! Here in Fla., I have seen normal albinos going for $700 and I have been told that some may be available at Daytona this year for $1000 a pair. Though not the best investvent animals they are IMHO the best looking albinos out there! Jim

I would be willing to bet my left arm and all of my bank accounts that the "amelanistic" and the Bob Clark strain are compatable. Just a hunch....but, I am willing to gamble. And, as of now, there are at least five types of albino retics: High White/orange, Lavender, Purple(real purples-yellow heads, and a deep purple hue to the body, the animals Mike Wilbanks sells for $2000),Carmel or Blond retics, proven genetic by Bob Clark and this "amel" strain, the newest of the albino retics. All very gorgeous in their own ways.

Well from what I understand Clark recieved hets from the amels produced from the Kahl strain which produced babies for him in turn he sold under the name type 2 name., I know Bob has his own strain which is similar to the amels or likely the same type but from diffrent sources. This has caused some problems for some people, they are all nice animals regardless. Al has bred the tiger and super tiger gene into his animals which imho has made the babies a more YELLOW looking animal and has taken away from the looks of the orginal pure amel. Pete sent me a large pic of his female when he first got it in with a shipment of albino boas I recieved from him, I was beyond impressed! I have kept all but the amels at this time and I am looking forward to getting some in very soon, but it looks like I will have to buy my stock from Clark or Willbanks to get the true look of what a amel should look like. Regards, Big Jim

I guess since my husband is currently in Indonesia it is my duty to stand up here and explain a few things. First of all, Al and I did not accomplish the first cross of the tiger line into the Amels.... the credit goes to Pete Kahl, as he successfully bred his female to a Tiger male in 1999. The Tiger hets were sent to our facility along with the original female (Amelia) on breeding loan in 2000. I do believe that Clark and Wilbanks have also produced and sold Amel (aka Type II) Tigers and Super Tigers so I would imagine that their line looks a lot like the ones produced here, since their original hets came from us from the same breeding as the Tiger hets. So there probably is no different "line" that will look more like the original female. There are several pictures showing the gradual color change of the pattern morphs on our website, including a picture of Pete's original female shortly after she was imported in Jan. of '97.

Just for the record.... Clark's original "Type II" female and the original "Amel" female are two different animals, two different bloodlines. There have been animals produced from the "Amel" bloodline that were sold as "Type II" albinos. Does this matter to anybody? Everybody seems to have their own opinion. The fact is, all albino retics are awesome animals. It just depends on what you like. There is something out there for everybody.

Cindy Baldogo
Baldogo Reptiles

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