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when talking about hets is it best to buy female or male? which is more likely to actually produce the morph? just woundering.
thanks to all

Get one of each, 1.1

Or if you can't afford to do that and have plenty of time to wait get a male and a normal female or 2. Keep all the females produced (possible hets) and breed back to Dad. Personally, I don't have that much time to produce a visible trait (4-6 years) and would go with a pair of hets.

Cheryl

so if you get a pair of hets, the percentage of getting the said morph is more likely to happen?
so like a 100% het albino pair would hatch out an albino clutch?

two hets bred together would get you normals, more hets, and some of the actual morph
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Sign of the Serpent

so would i be wrong to say two 100%hets breed together would actually produce 33%normal, 33%het, and 33% morph?

In a somewhat easy scenario picture, if you bred two 100% hets together and had four eggs, statistically, 1 would be albino, and the other three would have a 66% chance of being het for albino, with only two of the three (66% of the remaining three) proving to be het for albino and one (33% of the remaining 3) would be a normal.

So 1 albino, 2 het albinos and 1 normal

Robin

No...if you were to draw it out in a punnet (sp?) square. (I will try and post an image of one or Maybe someone else has one handy?)

Where "N" is the Normal gene and "r" is the recessive gene.

What you get is 25% Normals, 50% Het, 25% recessive.

Hope this helps and keep in mind the actual percentages only work out this nicely is really big samples...since Balls only lay 3-8 (avg) your percents will differ from others (just hope your lucky),

Sean

You basically said the same thing that I did. The three normal looking ones would be called 66% possible het, because each one alone has a 66% chance of proving AS a het. You won't be able to tell which is which until you prove them out.

damn genetics is a pain..lol
so it is a good idea then to go ahead and get the pair. at least one would be the actual morph..
wow. almost a headace. just joking
thanks to all

Just keep in mind that every single egg in the clutch has a 25% chance of producing a morph, 75% producing a normal looking snake (with the 66% possible het attached as well). However, this doesn't mean if you have a clutch of 8 eggs, two will be that particular morph. You can get no morphs at all, just possible hets/normals, or if the python gods are really smilling, you could get all morphs.

Of course this only works with simple recessive morphs The Co-Doms are a whole different ball game (but even funnier LOL )
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PHLdyPayne

Here is my take on Hets. Do not buy a pair! I am going to assume you are going to be buying babies, and your goal is to produce whatever morph you buy the hets for. Lets take Ghosts, say you want to produce Ghosts. The best way, in my opinion, is to buy a couple of Het Ghost females this year. You can probably get them for like $600 each. Feed them good, and next year buy a male Ghost, probably like $750 by then. Hope at least one of the females is a good eater, and you get Ghost babies in a few years. If you buy a het pair, and the female does not eat well, you have wasted time and money, trust me, I am there right now.

Dave

to do it but not everyone has the funds for your scenario. You are right about the girls, a 1.2 group (for hets or homo)would be better but then 2.3 or 2.5 group would be even better so that you're covered if one of the males doesn't breed and some of the females don't grow well.

All depends on your available cash.

Cheryl