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Hey...and Eggs?! a little verbose....

artgeckko Jun 06, 2006 01:36 AM

Hello again-

Been crazy for a while: work, new baby boy, an ongoing lawsuit,snakes in the yard, etc...
My female egyptians were briefly introduced to their male roommates after repeated scratching at the glass and territorial displays were finally heeded by their keeper. It is funny to see how spring affects the behavior of these animals. Brumation was relatively unnoticed but breeding behavior was on in earnest.
Next season I do plan to video the whole process-from males territorial displays and dominance fighting to the actual copulation itself. Not sure how sucessful both encounters were, and one noticible bloodshed gave cause for alarm. The other interesting behavior is once the females are gravid they become incredibly aggressive toward any advancing male. Both females have picked out the "nest" and defend that against my checks for eggs with very deliberate bumping of my hand, open gaping of jaws and hissing. Gloves are a must.
I have been watching my one female dig up her caging for about 5 days now I go in everynight to replace the sand in the nesting chamber and make sure there is some moist sand still avail and that no eggs have been deposited.
I have 2 incubator set up with moistened perlite inside a clear rubbermaid box inside a 56 quart igloo filled with water,an aquarium heater set to 90F. Temps have been consisitent for a week.
Last year I tried a hovabator...I found that the temps fluctuated way too much and humidity was inconsisitent.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Good luck with yours.
will post again soon and get some new pictures
ed

Replies (14)

skullkeeper Jun 06, 2006 10:28 AM

Your Egyptians are beautiful!

el_toro Jun 06, 2006 12:14 PM

Alas, no suggestions, since I've not been even remotely successful with eggs so far. But I wanted to wish you the best of luck! Please let us know how things come along with your Igloo - I'm trying to figure out what I want to arrange for next year. And I'd LOVE to see video next year if you get it!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Saharan Uros (Joe and Arthur)
3.1 Mali Uros (Spike, Turtle, Tank, and Lilly)
1.1 Ornate Uros (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
2.1 Green Anoles (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Arredondo Jun 06, 2006 06:23 PM

Snakes in the yard? What's wrong with THAT??

artgeckko Jun 07, 2006 12:40 AM

Nothing...but...
Pacific rattlesnakes...we seem to have alot of them go through our yard...I have two small kids....SO I'm constantly getting my TONGS and the snake bucket......
Upsetting to me how many times I see gophersnakes and any snake for that matter killed by people in my neighborhood and then they complain about mice HELLO!?!!

SO Snakes in the yard are not bad....I just feel uneasy with a 3 foot rattlesnake in my firepit!!!
Especially when the night before me and my daughter were cooking marshmallows in the firepit!

>>Snakes in the yard? What's wrong with THAT??

cajit Jun 07, 2006 12:50 AM

I don't blame you with having kids,we have the eastern diamond back's down here in FL. and they can get huge!I don't think they should be killed either.
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Cajit

URO'S RULE ALL!!!

1.0 Mali Uromastyx (OZ) DOUG DIX

Arredondo Jun 10, 2006 04:05 PM

I see what you mean!! Well, what's so good is that you're removing them unhurt to another location. Even still, you have to wonder if the snake instinctively spends the rest of it's life trying to return to it's original home territory. I understand your concerns, though. We live on the edge of a swamp & cottonmouths are not uncommon at all. Having no kids or free-ranging pets, though, they're a welcome sight anytime they choose to crawl by!

uromastyx_ornate Jun 06, 2006 08:23 PM

Hey

Wow that picture is great! Those uros are HUUUGGGE! This is LIReptileRescue from repticzone.com

Where are the rest of your pics???

I NEED to see 'em.

My egyptian (i think F), is about a foot now.

artgeckko Jun 07, 2006 12:33 AM

Hello-
I do not get around to photos too often.
The rest of my photos are under my username in the Kingsnake Uro photo gallery.
Ed

>>Hey
>>
>>Wow that picture is great! Those uros are HUUUGGGE! This is LIReptileRescue from repticzone.com
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>>Where are the rest of your pics???
>>
>>I NEED to see 'em.
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>>My egyptian (i think F), is about a foot now.

cajit Jun 07, 2006 12:46 AM

They are beautiful.Wouldn't mind getting a pair if those myself someday.Don't have the room for them now,but I will in the future.Plus I want to get some more of the smaller uro's first.Good luck with the eggs!PS:Post some pics of the hatchling's!
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Cajit

URO'S RULE ALL!!!

1.0 Mali Uromastyx (OZ) DOUG DIX

mfields Jun 08, 2006 07:36 PM

How old is the darker one?Because if you scroll down to my post i was very concerned that my uro was either older than i was told or unhealthy.Now i see you have one the same coloring as mine and i feel better thinking that maybe mine is normal after all.Is the darker one called a certain species or are all uros the same?Thanks!

PHEve Jun 07, 2006 05:10 PM

Such a beautiful critter love those Egyptians ! Hope to see some small fries soon, hunh ? LOL

My Baby girl Cleo says Hi

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PHEve / Eve

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artgeckko Jun 07, 2006 11:46 PM

Cleo is looking really good and how big is she now?
I can only hope that those eggs come soon..starting to get alittle nervous to when they may get laid...Worried about her possibly being egg bound.
Will keep you posted.
Ed

>>Such a beautiful critter love those Egyptians ! Hope to see some small fries soon, hunh ? LOL
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>>My Baby girl Cleo says Hi
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>>PHEve / Eve
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>>Contact PHEve

Lindsay Jun 10, 2006 09:36 AM

Howdy Ed,
Egyptians really are different than others uros in some ways. Adult males will stand up and spar like some monitors do. I never have been able to get a decent photo of that. If you ever do, please share it.
It's hard to guess what the laying females want so make it as big as possible and give as many choices as possible. that can be difficult to do in captivity because of the dimensions needed - you still have to give her plenty of T gradient for her own thermoregulation too. I had one female empty her big rubbermaid laybox (throwing it out thru a smallish opening) every day for three weeks and she still laid good eggs. I should have just taken her to the beach and let her remove a sand dune or two. Some seem content to jump into any little container, dig six inches, depost and bury eggs first time. So is extended digging just normal? or is it a specific temperature or moisture they are looking for? Or they simply need to go deeper instinctively. In nature, deeper would be more stable thermally. I've seen lizard breeders do interesting things to encourage laying. a freiend of mine would attach a huge garbage barrel full of soil off the side of the cage so their iguana could dig down three feet to lay. Worked great.
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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

artgeckko Jun 10, 2006 02:48 PM

Thanks for the reply...
Yeah I definitly know the digging a sand dune..like the idea...
the sand in her cage is everywhere. We had quite a hot spell for a few days that seemed to incite the digging, now were back to June Gloom as they say...seems that the digging has slowed and more basking is happening...sure that will change...I have tried making rubbermaid boxes...pieces of slate in the hot end...in the cool end.....adding water to the sand to increase humidity... drainage tubing packed with sand to the bottom of the enclosure to simulate a tunnel...garbage can is an interesting idea.
Now she is climing the walls of the enclosure, go figure?
I'm at a loss...
Will keep trying of course.
Ed

>>Howdy Ed,
>>Egyptians really are different than others uros in some ways. Adult males will stand up and spar like some monitors do. I never have been able to get a decent photo of that. If you ever do, please share it.
>> It's hard to guess what the laying females want so make it as big as possible and give as many choices as possible. that can be difficult to do in captivity because of the dimensions needed - you still have to give her plenty of T gradient for her own thermoregulation too. I had one female empty her big rubbermaid laybox (throwing it out thru a smallish opening) every day for three weeks and she still laid good eggs. I should have just taken her to the beach and let her remove a sand dune or two. Some seem content to jump into any little container, dig six inches, depost and bury eggs first time. So is extended digging just normal? or is it a specific temperature or moisture they are looking for? Or they simply need to go deeper instinctively. In nature, deeper would be more stable thermally. I've seen lizard breeders do interesting things to encourage laying. a freiend of mine would attach a huge garbage barrel full of soil off the side of the cage so their iguana could dig down three feet to lay. Worked great.
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>>Lindsay Pike
>> Urotopia Uromastyx
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