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? bout breeding WTFs..

xNeViNx Jun 06, 2006 06:45 PM

i have a trio of australian blue WTFS. theyre still babies, only about 3/4" long. i bought 3 figuring..what were the odds of all 3 being the same sex. but any way, i wanted to know about cycling them and such for breeding. and then the best ways for them to lay there eggs, and for the eggs to grow and hatch. ive never breed frogs befor. so any good web pages, of if some one wanted to take the time and tell me everything..i would appriciate it greatly.
thanx
nevin
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green tree pythons
green anacondas
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
giant daygeckos
standings daygeckos
satanic leaftail geckos
corn snakes
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

Replies (8)

daystorm Jun 07, 2006 06:48 PM

Alright, first they shouldn't even be thinking about breeding until they are at least a year or so. You have lots of time to set things up if you really want them to breed. Second, are they related? Inbreeding is as much a problem as crossbreeding. Third, you need a rain chamber to really get their motors running, there are plenty of links online, and if you go to talkto.thefrog.org you should be able to find alot about rain chambers. I have never set one up and don't intend to for my frogs. They do have to go through a dryer period, so mist less, then need a rainy season to mate (rainchamber)

I know it doesn't answer all of your questions, you would be better served at the frog, only because there are several topics about it I"m sure and I don't have any personal experience. I could always just tell you what the book says though.
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xNeViNx Jun 07, 2006 10:12 PM

hey thats a good start. thanks alot. that does tell me somethings. i was under the impresion that they shouldnt breed till they're 2 yrs old. but again. thank you
nevin
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AIM- McChompinator

green tree pythons
green anacondas
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
giant daygeckos
standings daygeckos
satanic leaftail geckos
corn snakes
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

daystorm Jun 08, 2006 03:51 PM

well, each frog, even from the same species, will mature and be ready to breed at different times. Some could be ready in as little as seven months, some could take a year and a half. Depends on the conditions it lives in. Keep in mind that the first time your frogs try to mate, they may not get it quite right, but they will get the hang of it as the time goes by.
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I think my frog owns a megaphone....

TimOsborne Jun 09, 2006 11:29 AM

Hey Nevin,
Here is a site that can help a bit. Most tree frogs follow the same principles with breeding (just need some adjustments in temp and humidity.. ). Anyway, check this out.

www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htm

I disagree with daystorm on one point. It really won't make a difference if your animals are related. In the herp world, siblings are bred together all the time, without issue. Most CB frogs on the market today have inbreeding in them at least to some degree... I personally have breed animals from the same bloodline 100's of times without issue, so.. don't sweat that to much.
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daystorm Jun 09, 2006 04:04 PM

really, I didn't know that. I figured that genetically speaking, the line would weaken over a period of time if constantly inbred. I undestand that it could take a very long time to do that, guess I watch too much sci-fi!
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I think my frog owns a megaphone....

TimOsborne Jun 09, 2006 04:52 PM

Technically.. it does, but it takes a while. I have seen studies that range from 7-14 generations.. but honestly.. I don't know how accurate they are either..
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xNeViNx Jun 10, 2006 09:49 AM

thanks alot osborn. iv seen reptiles breed 25 generations deep, with no deffects. i would personally never do that, ive never gone more then 5 generations. the parents of mine are unrelated. i figured it wouldnt matter, but alot of ppl dont like inbreeding or cross breeding. speeking of, has there ever been any kind of tree frog hybred??
thanx again
nevin
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AIM- McChompinator

green tree pythons
green anacondas
yellow anacondas
jungle carpet pythons
brazilian rainbow baos
reticulated pythons
columbian boa constrictors
amazon tree boas
kenyan sand boas
ball pythons
blood pythons
burm pythons
tamed tokay geckos
leopard geckos(all morphs, cept a couple)
crested geckos
bearded dragons
mali uromastyxs
sudanese uromastyxs
poison dart frogs
albino pacman frog
african fat tailed geckos
jacksons chameleon
giant daygeckos
standings daygeckos
satanic leaftail geckos
corn snakes
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
4 cats- max the fat pimp dog-cat(rip)
1 miniture mutt-brutis

all ive got is insane

we're never ganna survive unless we get a little..crazy..are the people walking through my head

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

TImOsborne Jun 10, 2006 12:10 PM

Hey..
Morphs and hyrbids in the amphibian world is a lot different than that of the reptile world. In reptiles, it is accepted and many times considered to be a premium animal. In the amphibians, it is generally frowned upon and avoided. I am not going to get into my personal feelings about it, but I will say that you won't find many people that will even attempt it, much less suceed. There are certainly alot of possibilities that could be produced.. but you won't find it often do to the general acceptance..

Oh.. back to your original questions.. w/ 3 frogs you have a 75% chance of getting a pair. With most tree frogs though, including whites, you will do much better with a male heavy group. So, if you end up with a 1.2.0.. I would seperate and only try to breed 1 female at a time, or even trade a female for another male.

Good luck..
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