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eggs stories....chams and water dragon

mchiara Jun 07, 2006 07:10 PM

....are all good the last i read of. Sunshine eggs are at 162 days. They all look as many description say they should, except for 4 that have molded.
I have 1 Water Dragon egg that is at 58 days of incubation and looks ....great....what is not great is that I came to conclusion that I have 2 females and that the other 5 eggs molded since not fert....what's the problem w/ this one?? is plump, white and almost smiles at me when all puzzled I look at it ...can eggs go this far and still not be fertilized? (WD incubation is 2, max 3 months -as per literature-). At this point, could also my cham eggs be not good (since 4 molded only recently) and go to 162 days??

anyone?

thanks
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1.1 Skipper & Sunshine - Veiled Chameleons
1.1 Jimmy & Hydra - Water Dragons
1.0 Trionix - Smooth soft shell turtle
1.0 Apalone - Spiny texas soft shell turtle
0.1 Irish Brook M - Standardbred mare (retired racehorse)
1.0 Sir Edward - Ragdoll cat, sire
0.3 Shannan, Jalisse, Slick - cats
?.? Some fish

Replies (3)

kinyonga Jun 08, 2006 11:55 AM

Glad to hear that the chameleons and water dragons are doing well!

I have seen eggs (not water dragon eggs though) go to "full term" and look great. Don't know why they don't just shrivel up. Don't know if there's any possibility that they are in some kind of diapause or not.

I never throw out any eggs until there is absolutely no hope for them. Learned my lesson the hard way on that....threw out a couple of dozen Parson's chameleon eggs years ago after keeping them for 14 months...only to find out that they take longer than that to hatch...and have since learned what good eggs look like. Been kicking myself ever since.

You said..."I came to conclusion that I have 2 females and that the other 5 eggs molded since not fert"...won't it be something if the egg hatches?? Its too late to candle the egg (the baby will be taking up too much of the space by now)...but try it next time. What temperature are you incubating it at?

You asked..."At this point, could also my cham eggs be not good (since 4 molded only recently) and go to 162 days??"...sometimes the odd egg dies during the incubation just like some human fetuses abort...so don't panic yet!

Egg hatching is such a worry!

mchiara Jun 08, 2006 07:23 PM

I am incubating the WD eggs at ~87 (day)max to ~77 min (night).
The chams eggs at ~81-82 max (day) to ~ 74 min (night); up to few days ago the min temp would reach 72, I just raised the low temp a bit.
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1.1 Skipper & Sunshine - Veiled Chameleons
1.1 Jimmy & Hydra - Water Dragons
1.0 Trionix - Smooth soft shell turtle
1.0 Apalone - Spiny texas soft shell turtle
0.1 Irish Brook M - Standardbred mare (retired racehorse)
1.0 Sir Edward - Ragdoll cat, sire
0.3 Shannan, Jalisse, Slick - cats
?.? Some fish

kinyonga Jun 08, 2006 11:00 PM

I incubate my water dragon eggs and my veiled eggs at about 80F during the day and they drop a degree or two at night. I started off doing them at this temperature and it worked so I stayed with it.

I'm not sure how high is too high for water dragons but the following site says incubation should be "28 - 30 degrees C (82-86 degrees F). Incubation periods vary from 60 to 101 d depending upon temperature."
http://www.arav.org/journals/JA018970.htm

Hope to hear that you soon have little dragons and veileds running around!

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