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Just wanted to get some opinions as to whether this is even possible. I saw an ad about hondurans hatchlings being sold and these honduran hatchlings are 2006 hatchling ( this year, meaning they just hatched within a week waiting for their first meal ). Ok so today is June 9, which means that they probably hatched sometime a week ago ... so let's peg that to be hatchdate as 1st week of June. We all know that the average time for hondo eggs to hatch is 2 months (58-70 days). So that puts the date of egg laying back to first week of April. We also know that the internal egg development inside the mother is roughly 45 days. So the conceiveable date of mating should be around mid-February. Of course, there's the development of egg follicles right after brumation and right after its first shedding after brumation...that "1st post-brumation shed and egg follicles development" is around a month period after brumation...so that pushes the date back now to mid-January.

Is this possible then that hondos are out of brumation in January? The state of Florida and some parts of Texas are year round warm spots but am curious as to how this is possible even in states of Florida and some parts of Texas.

What do you guys think?

RAY

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RAY

np

Very possible, environmental temp control is the trick, he probably brumated them earlier then normal!

Problem with that is he will need to keep the same brumation window every year or risk throwing these hondos breeding pattern off for many years afterwards, after all, most colubs are internaly programed for breeding!
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Marc Bouchard
Selectively Bred Serpents
www.selectively-bred-serpents.ca

There late 05's and I bet they don't look half as good as yours....

The ones I saw on the classifieds in this website are being sold labelled 2006. But, I agree that they are not as good as Marc's though.
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RAY

By controlling environmental conditions you can get your snakes to breed at any time of year. Just put them in a cool dark basement or room with AC in summer and take em out and keep them in a brightly lit warm room in the winter. You can have hatchlings at any time of year. Also, many people just don't brumate for that long. If you put your snakes down in november and bring them up jan 1st, you could easily be getting babies around now.

many breeders do this purposefully because that way they have hatchlings to sell when no one else does.