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I'm thinking about expanding my horizons as a colubrid guy. What do you guys recommend? If i had the money, I'd do diamonds. I also like carpets. but I don't like the big ones. I suppose that narrows it down a bit.
Cheers!

Look into Savu pythons (one of my faves). They are a thinner-bodied python, and they stay under 5'.

Iryan Jawa carpets are smaller, the group formerly known as Children's pythons, Ball pythons. Angolans if you have the bucks..they make good investments. Womas.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Jaykay is right, I have and IJ carpet and it’s my favorite carpet. A Diamond is cool but is going to set you back $1K, if it’s good. I also like his lineup.

Most people go straight to Woma's or Blackheads. That's what I did.
The only problem is the price.
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0.1 Rubber Boa
1.1 Womas
1.0 African Hedgehog
1.0 Sulcata
1.1 Leopard tortoises
0.1 Pembroke Welsh Corgi

My female Blackhead is almost 8' and 13 lbs, and she's not quite 2 years old. That might be a bit large for him.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

“Most people go straight to Woma's or Blackheads. That's what I did.
The only problem is the price.”

WHAT!?! That is like saying Corvettes are the most common cars for 16 year olds. Woma’s are a little more common (in the USA) than Blackheads but both are expensive and hard to come by. The most common Pythons are Balls followed by Burmese and Reticulateds, then Carpets. Don’t get me wrong you have great taste, but every day common, no way. If you don’t agree I have a Carpet or a nice Ball I would love to trade for either a Woma or a Blackhead

You ahve a lot of chioces:

Jungle carpet
Macklot
Water
Savu
Diamond(as you said)
Woma
Stimsons
Childrens
White lips

None of these get too big. It matters what you are into I guess. Good luck, they are all fun!!

OOPS!! I meant you HAVE a lot of chioces, sorry!! LOL.

Very nice collection (I like the Black faze White Lip).

These are actualy water pythons, but I do like white lips too!!

Wow! The pictures look like White Lips. I don’t know anything about water pythons so I’m going to have to look them up. How is their temperment? How big do they get? Well, I’ll know as soon as I do my studying.

Thanks

Jasin, I was also wondering about the water pythons' temperments. Are they super-tame, or just relatively tame, or what? What other species could you compare their dispositions to?
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1.0 Spotted Python
1.0 IJ Carpet Python and 0.1 Jungle Carpet on loan (We have our fingers crossed!)
0.1 Ball Python
1.0 Variable Kingsnake

I am not Jasin, but in my experience Water Pythons are the specific species that gives liasis their reputation. Unlike their larger cousin the Olive Python, water pythons never grow large enough to become Apex predators. As a result (with many exceptions), they tend to remain territorial and defensive for their adult lives, unlike other liasis which tend to grow out of these traits.

Again, there are a lot of exceptions. I have a particularly defensive adult male water python. He is easily handleable outside of his enclosure, but he has to be gingerly hooked out. To this day I have to paper the side of his enclosure, as he will defensively strike the walls in response to the slightest movement.

Separate from their defensiveness, they have one of the stronger feeding responses of any python I have worked with. In some cases this doesn't decrease with age. Catching them unaware to introduced the F/T prey item can be nearly impossible. On the plus side, my adult water pythons are the garbage disposal units---readily accepting any prey item, regardless of whether its a mouse or a rat, small or large, etc.

I enjoy working with them, and I've met docile adult specimen, but they are one of the rare species that actually deserves its defensive reputation.

Also, as you are probably well aware, they participate in a fascinating mass migration after a certain species of rat in their Australian range.

someone likes the ozzys.

Nate

Also another good small python is a Spotted Python. I have two of them and they are great. They get a little bigger then children's python, but not by a whole lot. The LARGEST recorded was 4.5ft i think. And they aren't thick either.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
0.1.0 Spotted Python (Shoelace)
0.2.0 Dwarf Hamsters (Tipsy and Bubblegum)
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula (Goopy)
1.0.0 Boyfriend (Brian)

How about Blood Pythons? They are the little big snake. Big head, and large diameter body in a neat compact length.

I like carpets too. My Carpets, a jungle and an Irian Jaya.

How big is too big? I would reccomend the Irian Jaya Carpet... they would tend to stay a little smaller than the Diamonds (5-6 feet), are much more affordable, and in my and others who I have spoken with's experience, tend to be the tamer of the carpet subspecies. I would also reccomend, like a few others have, Children's and Spotted pythons. My spotted has a great feeding response and is only about 4.5 feet(He is 4 years old, pretty much full grown). The Children's pythons are very much like the spotteds, however they tend to stay even smaller, around 3 feet.

No one has mentioned Ringed Pythons. We've got Womas, Diamonds, Carpets, Childrens, Green Trees & Rings. Love them all. But, Rings are relatively inexpensive, hardy, inoffensive & many are simply stunning, very irridescent snakes.