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...as to ssp. and/or locale???
You tell me!

(don't want to make it too easy with a close-up or anything )
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

Without a better shot I really do not know, and here is my reasoning........

At first glance it looks like a speckled king that has retained a significant amount of the juvenile crossbars, BUT after a minute of observation it could very well be an outerbanks king because the bars are farther spaced out than the typical holbrooki.

It'll be fun to hear the answer!.....probably funner to see the replies...lol.

Just trying to help attract some attention LOL!!

Im guessing an OBX king too. Im not so great with the southern kings anyway, so unless it's an eastern, I have to stop and think about which one it is. The vegetation says Florida, but the pattern says probably not. Going off that, the vegetation also says "transplanted to elsewhere" and Georgia and South Carolina would be worse guesses than an OBX, so thats what Im going with.
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Tom

"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

Lampropeltis getula "sticticeps" -OBK with slightly abberant pattern?

...a black king from tennessee?

Or maybe an eastern/speckled king intergrade from somewhere like Alabama.

hatteras OBK with a summer home in central fla ?!?!?

...just posed in a palmetto at my house... to show his pattern...
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

I wish I'd read this one first...
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

I want to say Outer Banks King, but I'm going to say Eastern King from one of North Carolina's counties connected to the Albemarle & Pamlico sound. So I'm going to guess Dare county NC?

Steve

n/p

I will guess NC Florida. If it was what it looks like (holbrooki x getula), you wouldn't be playing the guessing game.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

i'm tempted to say speckled.but i'll go with obx-'final answer'
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

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Frank Roberts
R&R Herpetological Frank Roberts & John Rodriguez
Roberts'Realm of Reptile Research

nigra x holbrooki?

locale...i'll go with a rubbermade container at mark kenderdine's house....i'll be in anf on mon 6/19 for a day do you live near there??we're goin' on out to texas, but will stop here for a night....i'll give a call...

...good guess.
I'm in Tampa and ANF is quite a drive...but ya never know.
Give ma a call...
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

...what I know of it....
It was found in Alabama.
I certainly see the speckled king and just figured maybe there was nigra in there somewhere??
Seems a few others see it too...
Here's a closer pic that obscures his cool pattern.

Thanks for the help!
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

I have seen quite a few snakes closely resembling that one found in east-central AL where nigra, holbrooki, and some faint getula influence all merge together to form stuff like this. The crossbars seem to be so spaced out it has to have some distand getula in the mix somewhere. Cool find. How did you aquire it?

Hey!, He's marked alot like my Cameron Parish La. speckled male.

I see speck but no clue about nigra.
Todd Hughes

South TX cross?
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

no crosses just differant locales in Texas! all holbrooki.
Todd Hughes