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To answer your question from below, yes Bruce Means used an Apalachicola King that Pierson Hill and I found in the National Geographic show. Pierson and I found it back in 2003 and it is what would be classified as a meansi. Bruce had set a drift fence trap hoping to find one himself but since he didn't, he went for the next best thing and used one that was found in the wild. Here are some pics I took of it back in January of this year.
I very much enjoyed that episode, and thought that was great that Bruce captured that snake and i believed he actually did. Then i found out the act was staged and i was very disappointed that Nat.Geo would stoop to such a fraud. Well ya can't believe anything on T.V. anyway,so phooey, thank you for being honest and that's a gorgeous L.g.getula, I'm finished with this subject, I'll believe Alan and you can believe Kenneth.
Oh yeah, Bruce also dramatized a EDB envenomation in another show, now that was hilarious, later.
Yeah I agree on the whole staged act but when one is pressured to find an Apalachicola King in a short period of time for a documentary, I can understand. He sure hyped it up though! Either way, I think the whole point was to show Apalachicola Kings can still be found and exist.
As for Tennant's book, it wasn't his fault there were typos in it. And it's not about believing one person over another. It's about what was actually published. For example, this pic out of his book is clearly a juvenile, patternless Apalachicola King. Yet it is labeled as a Florida King.
And this pic out of the book states the specimen is an Eastern King when it is definitely an Apalachicola King, your classic blotched phase.
Alan produced a great field guide but unfortunately, not all the information in it was correct. Argue all you want but the facts are there were typos in the book.
Apalachicola kings in their diff forms are variants of easterns and are labled as such.
And yes there are 2 pics of Apalachicola kings labled as floridana. So? big deal.......read pg. 197 coloring/scale form
then bother me with what you have a problem with, end of dicussion until you read that page. later.........
Well, I dunno but if "you can't believe what you see on T.V." then why should you believe all that you read??
I'm not saying I believe one way or the other here, but has Mr.Tennant published papers (not field guides)or is he too going by what he's read? (others' work)
See what I mean. (no pun intended there)
Every book has a typo or ten. Most books are up to interpretation as well. Most authors go by what is the "accepted thought of the day" so to speak I think.
Nearly impossible to make a "documentary" on snakes and not stage a capture or two. All of them do it. Just as their conversations must be scripted, so too the video.
If goini is just a pattern variant then what's the big deal? If it's a locale thing then should we try to preserve it's integrity?
I'll let you guys decide.
Sean...did you get my emails??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
Mark, I haven't seen any emails recently. Are you sending them thru here?
No I used the address I have been using all along...hmm
I'll shoot another.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
Mark Your web page is fantastic. The photos are of top quality. Good Job.
...I really need to update and arrange stuff better.
I just added a neat Stilosoma to the "Miscellaneous" page today.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
Saw that and concur, great shots on the site Mark! Where's the goofy pic of you doin' the snake thing on the about me page, lol!
Todd Hughes
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