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Coco-Tek hydroponic slab false bottom

slaytonp Jun 21, 2006 04:59 PM

Construction progress: The Coco-Tek slabs are cut to fit and laid down with a cut-out portion for a pond in the center and room on the left for the pump and tubing. This is covered with weed cloth. A cork bark wall is adhered to the back with Great Stuff, which expands--You can see it poking out the front in a couple of places. Dry cocoanut fiber has been sprinkled over this.

Tubing is attached to the pump. The end of the tube has been stopped with silicone, and it has been punctured along its length with a heated ice pick.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

Replies (10)

slaytonp Jun 21, 2006 05:07 PM

Progress: I have cut a thin, narrow strip of Coco-Tek and siliconed it to the top portion above the tubing. This will control splashing. Some substrate and plants have been placed over the weed cloth, and a brome has been stuck in a hole in the Great Stuff, which is still a vile yellow where it extruded from the cork bark, but this will change later, I promise.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

slaytonp Jun 21, 2006 05:10 PM

Adding some sphagnum to hide tubing and stuff between the tubing, the top piece of Coco-Tek, with some drift wood in place.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

slaytonp Jun 21, 2006 05:18 PM

Here the background has been stuffed with Sphagnum moss to hide the tubing and some gravel has been added in front to hide the false bottom Coco Tek and weed cloth. The water is being tested, running down the back wall. The last photo shows the inevidable foaming that takes place for some time when first running the water system.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

slaytonp Jun 21, 2006 05:41 PM

Sorry, it is the first photo that shows the foaming. It is test running for a few days and then the final planting and finishing touches, including rocks around and in the pond, and some better plant arrangements, and a couple of water changes, perhaps. I had to slit the weed cloth that was lining the pond, as it didn't allow enough free drainage of the water and tended to flood over into the substrate.

While the majority of the water actually falls directly into the pond, some does seep over the bark onto the back substrate, but this drains relatively cleanly back into the false bottom.

I'm not pretending this is a thing of beauty, especially at this early date, but it will improve as I mess with it further and the various mosses, etc. begin to colonize the cork bark. It is not the only way to build a false bottom, either, by any means. It's just one way that I've found to be relatively simple and that works without a lot of technical skills.

I get my cork bark from The Cork Store* in bulk, which comes unsterilized and generally uncleaned. You can also purchase individual pieces from the various terrarium folk, or a pet store. I merely wash it off if it's dusty, cut it to fit, and use it without boiling or extensive sanitizing. In most cases, it is full of surprises, such as spores of mosses that will grow on it, as well as a couple of different delightful ferns that may eventually appear over time. The lichens that adhere to it, unfortunately don't last long in wet, humid conditions.
*The Cork Store

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

Shopaholic Jun 21, 2006 09:58 PM

Hey Patty:

Nice job!! What are you building it for and I've never heard of Coco-Tek til now. Cool! Can't wait til we have more pictures. I'm in the middle of building one too and I'm starting to take some pictures that hopefully I'll be able to post.

Talk to you soon,

Maggie

slaytonp Jun 25, 2006 12:29 AM

Maggie: It's for the two tiny Phyllobates lugubris I picked up way back in March at the Arizona Frog show. I've had them in a tiny, but planted 2 1/2 gallon glass tank since then. I can't imagine these little guys ever needing anything bigger than that, but the "directions" say they need a lot of space. I mean, they are smaller even now, than new morphed out imitators. I just hope they don't get lost in 10 gallons, but apparently, they won't.

Coco-Tek is certainly worth trying. It's been well over a year in my corner bow with some P. vitattus, and is still working without breakdown, just fine. It's made of cocoanut fiber losely woven, then apparently dipped in latex, so it stays strong, but spongy and permeable to water with no apparent deterioration.

Please do post some pictures. I've never seen any of your tanks, and they must be well worth a view or so.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

Shopaholic Jun 28, 2006 11:56 PM

Hey Patty:

Wow! How nice that tank turned out. You made a masterpiece! Neat stuff that COcotek. Going to have to give it a try. I can't believe that those little frogs need that much space, but if you got the room why not? Are you the only person that has these little frogs in America? I've been trying to post some pics but the pics I take come out horribly. You can't see anything. Well, on this new tank I'm doing now, I'm borrowing a camera and hopefully we'll get some worthwhile pics.

Keep up the great work!

Maggie

bighurt Jun 22, 2006 04:28 PM

Patty, it looks great, I think in a larger tank this product has a lot of potential exspecially in larger aquaria. I can understand why you choose a 10 for the initial test, but even with the small size it still turned out really nice. I am not particaularly fond of false bottoms in small aquaria because of the size.

How different is the weight between using this product and traditional false bottom methods? or have you even noticed? I imagine its a lot easier?

Again great job.
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Jeremy

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slaytonp Jun 25, 2006 12:36 AM

This actually isn't my first use of Coco-Tek. I used it in a 55 gallon bow about a year or more ago, and it is still working for that.

It is very light--almost weightless. As I just told Maggie, it is a loosly woven coconut fiber stiffened with what is apparently a latex dip, which prevents deterioration and makes it sturdy, while still being spongy. It is definitely worth a try.

I've posted this picture of the bow before, so everyone else forgive me for redundancy, but the false bottom here is of Coco-Tek, and the drip wall is on the left, the pump in the back center pool.

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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

hedder062474 Jun 25, 2006 06:08 AM

WOW!!!!!!!! That looks really fantastic! I hope the bow front I am working out looks as good as that when I am done! Great JOB!

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