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I was just up at a friends house and took some pictures of some very interesting little boas one of his females gave birth to sometime in the past few weeks. These came from a pair of siblings, which he had originally produced from an unrelated pair. From a fairly small litter (I don't know the exact size, probably about 10), three of these were produced, but one of them died right away. The remaining two look good and healthy. The rest of the siblings are normal colored. The special ones are the really light colored ones, you'll see 'em:

Here's one of the weird ones next to its cleanest looking normal sibling:

A tail end shot with the cleanest normal siblings, and one of the weird ones:

I know what I think they look like, but what do you think?

look at the second pic. If it was what your thinking the tongue would be pruple or purple/red. They do look different though.

Ruben Michel

but I have never seen one in person......awesome if they were!!

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Things always get cloudy, just before transformation.

I would have to agree....ooooo that dirty T word...lol

Hey Those look just like T positives....

Ruben, does anyone have proof for sure that they all have the mottled red purple toungues??

Congrats on an awesome litter for your friend!!!

Tell him I would love one and to contact me...Thanks Andy Federico

ajf@rochester.rr.com

585-478-8499
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there could not be any solid black on the animal. They are definitely very nice and about as close to t-pos as they come.....Who knows maybe they are something we have not seen yet.

Here is a pretty decent article on VPIs site about albinism in snakes.

http://www.vpi.com/TposBoas/TposBoasPages/AlbinoInfoTextPage.htm

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I don't think they are salmons. Trouble is, there are something like half a dozen different mutants lumped under the "T-positive" and "hypo" labels, and I haven't a clue as to which yours is, except it doesn't look like a salmon. Or you might have something new. Without breeding tests, both against wild type and the other T-positive and hypo mutants, your guess is as good as mine.

If those babies stay noticeably lighter than their siblings as they get older, you might want to give them a unique name to distinguish them from the other hypos and T-positives. I don't think anybody has used "pale", but you might prefer something else.

Hope to hear more about this project in the future. Good luck with the little guys.

Paul Hollander

If they are T , they will have red/pink eyes, just as a normal albino. This will solve the dilemma. Even if they are not T s, they are very nice boas.

Phil Goss

your friend with them and keep us updated!
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Amanda Burke
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"NOT T pos" but still pretty. I would be interested in one if any are available. Ty@ratracesolutions.com
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Ty
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Those boas are BEAUTIFUL.

As to what they look like or what they are......

Well, it doesn't really matter what they may or may not "look like". In order to call them Hypo, T pos, or what ever they need to be proven genetically.

They definately have a strong reduction of black, like a hypo. The do sort of look like T pos, but not "exactly" like them. You need to breed them to find out exactly what they are.

Very very very nice and interesting indeed. It's very obvious you have no choice but to see if more can be made. Then beyond that, prove them out to see what they are or are not. Not all genetic mutations look exactly like anyone would predict. The T-Positive Colombians are quite different from the T-Positive Nics. These could be as well but you will have to do the work to prove them out. Hopefully at least one of those puppies is a male so you can breed it back to Mom in 18 months. I hope so and wish the owner of these wonderful animals all the luck in the world!

Whatever you do, don't do something foolish like sell them to anyone. Be very very careful. No way in a million years I would sell them. No way.

Great stuff and congrats!

Jeff Ronne