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I aquired these two girls in order to breed them to see if this eyelid condition is genetic or a fluke (temperature spike, etc.) But, the only way to know for sure is to breed them to a male with a similar disfigurement.
I love these girls..they have gorgeous color and genetics!
They also have a seemingly melancholy appearance, like they are frowning because their heart is breaking, rather than the usual leo smile...but they touch my heartstrings.

Female 1:

Female 2 (in very deep shed - camera flash reflects off her skin):

Leo Anon female I purchased:

Albey female I posted in shed before:


Remember her in shed?:


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Do they have any problems in vision? They look like they might.

Why do you want to find out if the trait is genetic?

Personally I would not want to encourage that kind of defect. If you breed them to a male with the defect and it is transmissable genetically, you could end up with 12-30 or more geckos that may be very difficult to sell and should not be bred, as most people would consider that trait highly undesirable.

Of course if your results indicate it is an incubation defect due to temp. fluctuations, then you'll know they are ok to breed.

It is my hope that is was a temperature spike. But, I want to know for sure if this is a genetic trait - If it is genetic (perhpas too much in-breeding), you can bet I would never breed them again and I would not sell those babies, but give them (and the females)away to someone wanting a pet only. There are many cases of this eyelid disorder, even among some of the bigger breeders...wouldn't all of us want to know if it is genetic? If it is, we must stop breeding those leos that throw it and try to clean up the lines. If it is a temp thing, then we will all be able to breath a sigh of relief that our geckos are fine.
The only way I will know for sure is to breed them to a male with the same abnormality.
They catch crickets and butter worms/silkies fine and are eating like champs, so I think their vision is pretty ok.
They would make someone might fine and extremely gorgeous pets, if it comes to that.
Thanks for your concern - I'm not just trying to make money off of free leos I received or anything. I paid for those girls because I wanted to have my questions answered and my fears put to rest.

Peace,
Laura
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I see, and understand, thanks for explaining. I will keep my eyes open for you for a male with that defect.