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Simple question:
What are the chances of a female who is "500g give or take meal times" breeding this next season?

I would tend to say next to none, but I would be interested in hearing what you have to say. I recently spoke with someone who said "she will be ready for this next season," referring to a specific snake. Just curious!
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Jeremy Conrad
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Id say not a change. You do have about 5 months left but i doubt she will be able to put on 8-1000grams safely? also females that go in 2 years are few and far between. Id say wait for her 3rd winter. Why ruin a female!!!
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

generally they say they will breed third year. most texts say they should be well over 1000 grams. if you can get it that big will it be sexually mature? will you get a decent clutch? the earlier the more money you get or get to start projects earlier but why rush nature and clutch size
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I would say well fed females have no problem producing by their second winter. There are always exceptions when you have a female that refuses a lot of meals, but usually, you can get them up to 1200-1500 grams no problem. I would say it is not out of the question for a 500 gram female to still produce by next year, sometimes females go crazy this time of year and can put on 500-1000 grams in a few months no problem. However, I would say it is unlikely to happen until spring.
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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

If she does breed by some coincidence, your clutch size will suffer.....it will be quite small. Wby compromise her health and body weight trying?

Susan
Ssnakes

that is not entirely true. there are many reports of females that are 3-5 years old that only lay duds or 3-4 eggs. On the opposite side I have heard of many BIG breeders have females go at 18 months and they lay 6 good eggs. I've even heard of one breeder breed a female at 9 months old and got 5 good eggs from the 1600gm giant year old female at laying. if a female has the right length and weight it will not hurt the snake but if you rush it you may run the risk of having an egg bound snake and a snake that the does not produce optimal clutches in the future.
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Josh Hutto
J&K Reptiles

2.3 het pied (RDR, alan bosch x 2, BHB x 2)
1.0 Spider Ball python (Ballroom pythons south)
1.0 Vanilla Ball Python (Gulf Coast)
0.1 High Contrast Albino (Gulf Coast)
1.1 het albino (ben siegel, Gulf Coast)
1.2 het citrus ghost(Gulf Coast line)
1.0 citrus ghost (Gulf Coast line)
1.1 graz pastel female
Alot of normal BP females (some not so normal)
2 various corns
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (alan bosch)
1.0 american pit bull terrier
1.1 taco dogs (ankle biters)
1.0 grey cat
0.1 bearded dragons

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

why would breeding a 12-18 month old affect future clutch sizes? is there actual scientific evidence that has shown this to be true? what is the biological explanation of this?

i have a couple 05 girls that are over 1000g (they never refuse meals) and should be well over 1500 grams in a few months and i want to know what the pros and cons are of trying to let them go this year...

there are 2 major cons for breeding young females. The first and probably the one that is most threatening is a smaller female that has good fat reserves to make big eggs is getting egg-bound with her first clutch. this could kill her at worst or possibly make her unable to produce eggs in the future. the second problem would be in a female taking vital fat reserves and depleting her body of calcium for egg development and possibly causing her to have a smaller max size as an adult as that is a crucial time for growth. With that said in the wild a female that is born in a bumper year of rodents in africa could easily make it to breeding size by her second winter and if she would let a male hook up with her she could produce eggs. Like I said, i've heard of females breeding and producing decent sized clutches at less than a year so a 2 year female can surely have good eggs and it not be a problem. I know I have a few 05's that are on track to make it to the 06/07 breeding rotation. My outline for a breeding female is if it is less than 3 years old it better be at least 1600gm, if it is 3 years or older they can be 1300-1400 and get put in the rotation. Each breeder has to make their own decisions on what is best for their animals and themselves and it is wrong for anyone to say they are wrong as long as the animals aren't harmed in the end.
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Josh Hutto
J&K Reptiles

2.3 het pied (RDR, alan bosch x 2, BHB x 2)
1.0 Spider Ball python (Ballroom pythons south)
1.0 Vanilla Ball Python (Gulf Coast)
0.1 High Contrast Albino (Gulf Coast)
1.1 het albino (ben siegel, Gulf Coast)
1.2 het citrus ghost(Gulf Coast line)
1.0 citrus ghost (Gulf Coast line)
1.1 graz pastel female
Alot of normal BP females (some not so normal)
2 various corns
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (alan bosch)
1.0 american pit bull terrier
1.1 taco dogs (ankle biters)
1.0 grey cat
0.1 bearded dragons

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

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