Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Based on all I've read and discussed with lots of people, it's possible to keep these two species together as long as the habitat is set up properly(semi aquatic with plenty of hiding and climbing, plenty of food for all, etc)

I already have some gtfs in a 10 gallon. Right now there are four of them and one that's almost ready to be a total frog instead of a tadfrog. I plan to keep two of them--one that has only one back leg (his name is Tripod), and I'll choose one more, then I'll let the others go. I got the tads out of an unused pool so technically they're wild caught. I'm assuming they're "generic" green tree frogs, since I live in Northwest Florida and these little guys are all over my property. I think at least 50 of them live in my banana tree!

How big should my froglets be before one or two fbts can live with them? Currently they're small enough to sit on a nickle. Do these guys grow very fast? I'm doing the best I can to catch plenty of little flies from outside. There seem to be plenty of flies in the tank, and I have seen the froglets hunting at night. They won't take pre-killed food that doesn't fly, will they? I'm having trouble locating pinhead crickets, and prefer not to raise crickets myself if I can help it.

No they wont take food that doesn't move, at least they probably wont.

As for the Fb's, they are toxic and will cause all sorts of bad things to happen to your frogs, up to and including death. There are plenty of threads that will tell you just that.

Aside from that, a ten gallon is a little small for one adult green tree frog, let alone two and some toads. I know your frogs are young now, but they do grow up and you will have to place them in a bigger tank for their well being. (don't let this sound like an order, merely my way of voicing my opinion)
-----
I think my frog owns a megaphone....

I agree with the things already said, definitely no FBTs in with anything else. Also anything in with something smaller will be eaten.

You should be able to get flightless fruit flies at your local petco or the like, just make sure you have a tight top, they may be flightless but they still climb. Also you can order pinheads quite reasonably and get them quick through an online vendor such as premiumcrickets.

DO NOT PUT THEM TOGETHER, FIRE BELLY TOADS HAVE TOXINS ON THEIR SKIN THAT WOULD PROBALLY KILL YOUR OTHER FROGS.

daystorm and otis covered most of it.. it is a very very bad idea. Whoever told you that you cold was very wrong.. and whatever research you found that lead to you think they had similar environmental needs is also incorrect. Most of the husbandry requirements including cage design, temp and humidity for each are different..

Once again.. don't mix.. it is a bad idea.. (especially when a fire belly toad is involved)
-----
photos.xtremecombatsports.com

Thanks for the help. I'm hearing more "don't"s than "do's" so I will plan to have a separate tank if I get FBTs. Setting up the environment is part of the fun anyway.

There sure is a lot of conflicting information out there that's confusing to a newbie like me. One of my books has a chapter on mixing species including a list of combinations that has worked well for the author. He has had FBTs with GTFs in one tank for over two years with no problems. The book I'm referring to is Popular Amphibians by Philippe de Vosjoli, published by AVS. It seems to be a good book and most of the information is consistant with what I read in other publications (other than the species mixing, I guess).

Honestly, any book that gives that as a possibility I would throw away. Mixing somethings are possible with alot of experience.. but FBT's are very toxic and should not be mixed with anything..

BTW, if you are having trouble with information, I would suggest you checking out this caresheet - I did not write it, but it was written by a very knowledgeable and reliable person.

GTF - www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/caresheets/greentreefrog.html

FBT - www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/caresheets/firebelliedtoad.html
-----
photos.xtremecombatsports.com