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Gravid female....More questions!

kellybee Jul 10, 2006 02:49 AM

Hi,

Yet more questions..... My female has 5 clear egg bumps, I can see each one she's so fat. She's eating so much which is pleasing, and is getting her vitamins and calcium dosage but I have a few concerns....

1) she seems to like to bounce herself off the walls, incredibly active sometimes but I dont know if this is stress due to being wild caught or just normal....the male is the same but I'd have thought a heavily pregnant female of any species would be less active?

2) When she's bouncing off the walls and leaping from plant to log to plant she's knocking herself about a lot, is this ok?

3) She has not paid any attention to the lay box I put in, it has damp coarse vermiculite in it, because I am away from home for 9 hours a day and I'd like to think sure her eggs won't dry. I patted it down slightly and put some plants around/over it to make it dark, a bit like a cave...but she's never so much as sniffed it. She isn't digging at all, is this only in the last few days before she lays?

4) Do they tend to lay in the day time when they are warmed or at night? When I get up she comes out to sunbathe then eat, and when I get home she's already gone to bed and I dont want to wake her up, she's probably already stresed being wild caught, plus gravid, plus tired from bouncing off the walls all day. If she lays in the day I wouldn't have a clue as she sleeps in the dark corners!

I hope you guys dont mind all the questions, I have read lots of different info in lots of places but it seems that most info is a basic care sheet that wil tell you the basics and not a lot else. I guess I figure I'd rather learn from those I know have learned from their own experiences rather than an anonymous "care sheet". I'm so glad I found this forum!

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kellybee Jul 10, 2006 03:10 AM

PS: She had a little yellowish orange on her sides when I first had her last week (as per the photo) but these are gone and she tends to be more of a dark steel grey colour now, although this lightens during the day. If she's gravid is it normal to lose the colour before she lays?

PHEve Jul 10, 2006 08:21 AM

Could be going to shed, sometimes that will dull the color down a tad. She looks as if she may have had an earlier clucth as well, seems a little thin in her tail, back, and legs even though her tummy is big. Sometimes they look like that if they had a prior clutch.

Just make sur eshe gets plenty of everyhting, food fresh water, CALCIUM, and heat/uvb light
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kellybee Jul 11, 2006 02:43 AM

It would appear you were right she's sat sunning herself while Yoda sat eating her flaky skin. Blokes are disgusting ! We had a leopard gecko that used to peel his off with his teeth and stuff it in his mouth but never his mate's dead skin...

Yoshi looked quite a bit thinner today, maybe she's about ready to pop. Only ate 1 cricket before I left this morning, maybe her appetite is waining

PHEve Jul 11, 2006 07:30 AM

have lots of nutrients in it, LOL EMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Thank God we don't eat each other dead kin hunh? Hahhahahhaa !
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PHEve Jul 11, 2006 07:31 AM

instead of dead SKIN, big mistake, bug difference, I would not touch any of my KIN , LMAO
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kellybee Jul 11, 2006 08:41 AM

What do you mean by "Bug difference"?? Eating Kin???

I think she's lost the plot................ Medic!!!
PMSL

PHEve Jul 11, 2006 09:55 AM

DANG, it gets worse with each post, I QUIT ! I was up very late last night about 1 ish and then got back up at 6 give me a break here kido,

(Thats just an excuse my typing stinks, mistakes out the wazoo.)
Here I will try another excuse on ya....

I have many forums I have to read (being your friendly neighborhood Hostie & Moderator) LOL and a ton of them that I post on because I have different kinds of lizards.

Everyone else here is used to my errors, so you have to just cover your eyes and try and figure out what I'm saying
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lizard_lover Jul 11, 2006 10:31 PM

Eve, you really make me laugh sometimes

élan
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PHEve Jul 10, 2006 07:17 AM

We will try and think of something that sounds convincing, hahahahhaaa No really, some girls are not interested in the nest you provide, so with girls like that the best thing to do is have dampened sand in alot of the corners of tank, this way she can choose and you do not have to worry about the eggs being layed when away and drying out/being ruined.

I have never used dampened vermiculite for them to lay in, just to incubate the eggs in, maybe she does not like that???

As I said I would just keep the playsand damp in a few corners for a while. Some females get quite stressed if they can not find a place they like, so thats why you dampened a few places.

** OR only other thing I do with hard to please lady lizards, is put them in a 10 gallon tank (Close to lay date) with one small hide for sleeping, and a large heap of dampened sand off to one side of tank , and let them do their thing. They are more confined to have to use the area you provide in a small tank / or container. After she lays just return her to her regualr tank/home.

Hope she lays soon for you and you get some cute lil faces to look at in a few months.

Heres a pretty lady below (Kachina) using the corner instead of nest provided.

Kachina, dug out a corner of sand to lay, then covers when done

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kellybee Jul 10, 2006 07:39 AM

Wow, I didnt expect anyone your side of the pond to be out of bed this early !! Well, I don't have a clue when the due date is I only bought her last week, and she was clearly gravid then... her orange colours are almost gone now, seriously faded the last couple days....

And great photo, but I'm SHOCKED those eggs were so big in comparison to the lady that laid them, if thats the case she wont be ready for a while yet, I can see five eggs outlined clearly and they are nowhere near that big!!

LOL, thanks for yet more sound advice
Kelly

PHEve Jul 10, 2006 08:26 AM

You will not see the "actual" size of the egg when it's INSIDE her, they are softish and more plyable, so they can all fit then when they are layed they get more firm and full when they sit awhile and especially when in the incubator.

Also they are famished and eat like crazy , but a few days, sometimes a week or so before laying their appetite decreases dramatically, (They actally have no more room left for food) the eggs take up that space.

Amazing lil critters
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kellybee Jul 10, 2006 09:00 AM

Well that's better! a few days ago she ate no less than 3 BIG hoppers in the space of 5 minutes, plus the crickets I fed them that morning (I think you call baby mice hoppers but here they're GRASS hoppers, lol).

I was feeling really sorry for her having to force something that big out, but now it's not quite so traumatic!

Thanks as always, by the way does it matter she thinks she's a clumsy kangaroo sometimes bouncing around, when she's not a gerbil scrabbling all over the place?

Thanks again
Kelly

PHEve Jul 10, 2006 09:34 AM

even if the eggs are soft-ish coming out It's still like us giving birth, sorta ZAPS ya, thats why it is important to give them extra calcium and water and good food and heat Before breeding, during and after

No it does not hurt them BOUNCING around LOL, these lizards are known fo rtheir entertaining ACROBATS ! Hhehehehe
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kellybee Jul 10, 2006 09:44 AM

I thought as much, you never know though, I could never quite find it funny because I thought they might be freaking out, having just been dragged in off the plains and desperately trying to escape the poky little "box" they landed up in, but all's well that ends well!

I guess I should find some cute names for them now...

PHEve Jul 10, 2006 09:55 AM

acclimate when they are wc's they do jump up and samck their noses on the screen and sometimes cause damage. They do gladd dance alot(jump at the glass more than cb's

But all collareds love to run and jump and be quite active.
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kellybee Jul 10, 2006 10:21 AM

I have been asking about a million questions since joining this forum, despite the fact that I read so much BEFORE buying them too.

Point being a lot of people here have answered a lot of my questions and really put my mind at rest, special thanks to Eve.

I'm a grown woman of 28 years, so now I'm going to sit back and enjoy my new pets (even if I have more than I planned!), thanks for all your advice, my mind is now at rest, I'm sure there will be plenty more questions to follow, but for now......THANKS PEEPS

By the way I named them Yoshi (F) and Yoda (M) !!

Kelly

PHEve Jul 10, 2006 11:43 AM

Very CUTE !
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