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Post shed photo of Edmonson co Ky pine

Phil Peak Jul 10, 2006 04:54 PM

I am happy to report that the Edmonson county Kentucky northern pine snake that Will and I found on June 11th is acclimating well to captivity and is now feeding on frozen/thawed rats. We also found out from our state herpetologist that the last living specimen from this isolate was found 37 years ago. In the past several weeks Will and I have been knocking on doors and meeting property owners looking for potential access to set funnel traps and to place AC in the area where the snake was found. Our goal is to collect a female from this locale and eventually to distribute captive bred offspring to educational facilities throughout the state to enhance public awareness of this snake. The discovery of this snake has already generated much interest here, and there is now much discussion on the possibility of trying to trap a pine snake in Mammoth Cave NP and doing a telemetry study. To us, this is all very exciting! We are thrilled that our friends at Ky DNR and the National Park service share our interest and hopefully soon the wheels will be in motion to find a candidate on secure property that we can track and learn from. In the meantime Will and I plan on continuing our efforts on private property to find a mate for the snake we now have. It took us four years and weekly visits to this area, not to mention much effort to find this snake. In the end though, it was well worth it and now that this snake has been found it proves they still exist. If there is a message in all this it is to pursue the old records and establish the possibility that the snakes are still there. Otherwise the unique character of the many isolates within the northern pine snakes range may soon be dilluted by reintroduction programs from other locales without sufficient data.

Phil

Replies (9)

shannon brown Jul 10, 2006 05:38 PM

see all your hard work pay off with the discovery of this animal.
Shannon

Phil Peak Jul 11, 2006 09:12 AM

Thanks Shannon!

dan felice Jul 11, 2006 03:55 AM

wow! he certainly looks 'different' from his more eastern cousins. he appears yellowish in the pic, is that what he actually looks like phil? this is an 01 from frank patinella aka coldblooded novelties......good job & great luck in your future efforts!

daveb Jul 11, 2006 08:25 AM

I agree, he does look yellowish...

daveb

Phil Peak Jul 11, 2006 09:17 AM

Dan, I would say that is an accurate observation. Many of the northern pine snakes in the western part of their range tend to be a yellowish or cream color. The Kentucky population seems to fit into this description.

Thanks, Phil

kfisher29 Jul 11, 2006 10:17 AM

Congratulations bigtime on an awesome discovery!!! The snake looks like it has a yellowish background or is that just me? Nice twist on color for northern pines. When I visit my aunt in Kentucky I'll have to catch two or three,yea right,lol. Kevin Fisher

Phil Peak Jul 11, 2006 10:53 AM

Thanks Kevin. Yeah the yellowish background color on these snakes is quite a contrast with the black and white specimens from the east coast. It does appear that this population is variable though with some snakes being described as having gray, white or even tan background coloration. We hope to see more and see how they compare in coloration, blotch count and scale counts with both those from this population and other populations of pine snakes. Hope you enjoy your visit to Kentucky!

Phil

metalpest Jul 11, 2006 04:00 PM

Congrats on your find. I hope you can pick up another to breed, I'd like to have this locale as well. Interesting northern.
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