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ajfreptiles Jul 10, 2006 09:48 PM

Hello All! Here is some info....

I produced two litters with the same parents....both litters produced animals that I cannot explain....

Here are the pics....let me know what you think? Notice that all three animals are different but they are all siblings...

The last pic is one of the first litter that the parents produced....

Thanks Andy

There is almost no black on this male....

Here is one of the first litter....

This one is also from the first litter....

Thanks Andy
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Replies (6)

boaphile Jul 11, 2006 08:21 AM

A rambling reply...

I would chalk it up to individual variation, which is of course genetic. You can have a hugely differing variation within an individual litter. This includes the color differences you have seen. You get those freaks like the super light one you have and you keep it because you can't possibly sell it correct? And you make more. The same goes for the really colorful one from the year before. You have to keep those and make more using another animal that shares as many of those same characteristics as possible. That is what I would do. Here are some pictures of Hypos all from the same litter too. These were all around 3.5' when I took these pictures. The washed out look in the first two was even greater when they were smaller like your babies. But they have changed some over time. Here are the pictures:

Now a couple that aren't nearly as nice:

All from the same litter. A really nice Doug Matuzack produced Hypo male that bred my huge "TJ" Pastel female. This kind of variation may be especially true when using a Pastel as one of the parents. Of course this does not have to be the case as none of your Boas genes, or my Boas genes for that matter, give a rip about what I think. I kept the two washed out animals at the top by the way. I do practice what I preach. They are living comfortably here at the "Boa Black Hole". Keep them, feed them and in a few years breed them.

ajfreptiles Jul 11, 2006 09:34 AM

Thanks Jeff, I have way to many questions...so I will just say...thank you for the honest reply....I wish others would share their insights as well....but sometimes these posts just go overlooked....it would be cool for kingsnake to put hit counters on the posts...I think that would tell alot...Thanks Andy
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Amanda_Burke Jul 11, 2006 09:35 AM

especially, there is a huge variation in the looks of the animals in a litter, including the non-hypo siblings. Some of the siblings tend to be really colorful with reduced black, even though they aren't hypo and the hypos themselves often have a huge variation in looks. I'd say that's what is going on in your litters.
Beautiful animals!!!
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Amanda Burke
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ajfreptiles Jul 11, 2006 09:36 AM

Your comments are always valued as well! Thanks Andy
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voodoomagik Jul 11, 2006 04:18 PM

I don't really have too much more to add to what has already been said and I certainly won't put myself on an equal level with Jeff and Amanda anyway!
...but those ARE some pretty cool looking snakes. As far as the really light one, honestly, at first I was glancing through the pics and thought it was a ghost!
Great babies though! Good work!
Aaron

JOEP123 Jul 12, 2006 12:25 AM

come with batteries included? lol.
Those are bright.
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Joel Pretz
JP Reptiles

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