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I just had something pretty unusual happen. I bred My Hypo Nic female to a PEWTER male. The Pewter is a Type 2 Anery Blood Boa. (Double Simple Recessive Trait). This is the 3rd year in a Row I bred this Nic Hypo Female. I got her as baby from Ben Siegel at the Same time I got my T positives. When I got the Hypo, there were also Type 2 anerys in the shipment of babies from Nicaragua. The one that Amanda called the "black Tail". I picked up 2 of them, and sold one of them to Pete Kahl. This year Pete produced a litter of DH blizzard, and Hypos that are also DH Blizzard this year using a Sunglow Male to the "Blacktail" Type 2. I know this is a Lot to swallow, but I'll bring it around.

Anyway, for the past 2 years I used this Hypo Female with the T positive Male to get Hypos Het T positive. This year I used her with the Pewter to get some Hypo Het Bloods that have more CA bloodline in them. Well, I got a VERY STRANGE RESULT when I looked in the cage today.

GHOSTS???? Anerys, Hypos????? This means that the Hypo Female I got was a DH GHOST. Similar to what Amanda was saying about Bryant Kings WC Ghost. What are the chances of bringing in a Hypo that is also a HET ANERY????? WEIRD!!!!!!!!!!!! So, I'm really puzzled now. It appears that these were the same shipment with what Amanda called the "blacktail" type 2's. And since the Female is HET for Anery, that would only lead me to believe she is het for the "blacktailed" anery. Not the other Anery, that Amanda proved Incompatible???? So, it does appear IFFFFFF this is the case, that these are Compatible with the Type 2's from the Blood/Pewter line. And probably compatible with the Columbian Type 2 Anery. (Kirby Proved that last year).

WHAT A WEIRD CYCLE. I guess this means we do have some COMPATIBLE lines of Type 2 anery, and some Incompatible ones. I know more breedings need to be done, and I will do that next year. I do have a few of the "black Tailed Anerys" and I'm going to breed them next year together to see what happens. I don't think I have any of the other Anerys from Nic that Amanda posted, so I can't do any breedings there.

Anyway, I guess here is the first GHOST that is HET for Blood. I was literally thrilled to produce a True CA ghost. What a Shock though.

I guess this means that my Hypos that are Het T positive from the 2 previous years are also 50 percent Poss het Anery. I don't think I like that becuase I don't want to take the color OUT of the T positive. ANYWAY, This is a LOT to Ponder.

Very interesting. Any Thoughts????

Amanda, thanks for your post this week. It was very interesting. I was cetrainly shocked to see these results.

Jeremy Stone

JULY is ONE BUSY month Here. Lots of Boas!!! Balls too. ooops. Wrong forum. I have a lot more to go. Sorry for the OVER POSTING. I just thought this litter should have been posted to help us understand what is going on.

That is a great looking Ghost! Great post with great info! Thanks Andy
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Nice to see the boa gods shine on you after having that tough litter earlier in the week. Congrats Vinnie

Good Luck Jeremy
When will the Maddness end? LOL

Mike
Boas Etc

np

it was all figured out.

Didn't Bill use a Blood 66% het Pewter X DH Colombian Ghost and produced Anerys (they may have been ghosts)? This would mean that the El Salvador Type II is compatible. And you bred a Pewter to a NIC Hypo het Type II. So El Salvador Type II is compatible with SOME kind of Nic Type II.

One theory that has existed with Type IIs is that they are not all genetic, some are just dark boas. The Black Tails are throwing this for a loop.

Someone needs to breed the following:
Colombian Anery X Nic Type II
Colombian Anery X Nic Black Tail
Colombian Anery X Pewter
Stone Blizzard Type II X Colombian Anery
SB T II X Nic Type II

MAYBE then, we will know all the answers.

I also have two more questions for you Jeremy.
First, the dam to this litter looks very small. How long is she, her girth, and her weight (pre-breeding)? I am thinking of breeding my '04 66% het Blood female this year, and I think she is ready, but I want some size comparisons.
Second, do you have a picture of the sire Pewter? I haven't seen an adult yet.

Thanks,
Chris

have been! They look like really beautiful babies too, and how awesome that they are also het Blood!
I have had a REALLY busy weekend and was about to go to bed when I saw this, so my brain is not really processing all this too well, so I want to think about it a little bit more! lol I can tell you, though, that it looks to me like those would not be from the black tailed variety of anery's but from the lighter ones. I say that because, in looking at the pictures you posted, the anery looks like the baby we got last year from Gus, whereas the "black tails" have a much darker, jet black tail with very dark saddles. So, without being 100% sure until you do more breedings with them, I'd say they look more like the lighter variety, as opposed to the "black tail."
I'll be really excited to see what happens next year if you breed that dam to a black tail anery male that you have. That should give you some definite answers one way or another and I'll look forward to you sharing the results!
This is really getting confusing though! lol Thanks for the information and pictures...boas sure are fun!!!!
Take care,
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Amanda Burke
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