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Pastel Axanthic?

jpman78 Jul 16, 2006 03:09 PM

I bred a lemon pastel male from Tony Hurt to a SK axanthic female from the Sutherlands. I got 9 eggs and here is a pic of 3 of them......THOUGHTS?....I'm puzzled.

Replies (6)

BChambers Jul 16, 2006 03:40 PM

You lucked out, my friend-your pastel was also het for SK axanthic! Since it's a simple recessive, thats the most likely explanation....

Brad Chambers

jpman78 Jul 16, 2006 03:45 PM

I must have bad odds then....out of 9 eggs I got 1 pastel and 1 axanthic ?pastel?.....should have been 50/50 for pastel and 50/50 for axanthic if it was indeed a het.

BChambers Jul 16, 2006 04:25 PM

I believe I remember a recent post from the person who crossed a clown to a het clown and got all clowns! In this case, you beat the odds-in the wrong direction, unfortunately....

Brad Chambers

beau Jul 16, 2006 06:35 PM

as far as I know kevin at nerd is the only one to produce an axanthic pastel and it looks like that maybe an axanthic pastel cross.

Have to see it out of the egg, but it looks like one to me

jpman78 Jul 16, 2006 05:30 PM

I spoke with Tony Hurt and he had used some 50% het axanthic females as normals with his pastels. However he believed they were VPI line not SK.....so ....here are the options:

Pastel is het VPI axanthic and axanthic is het VPI axanthic?
Pastel is actually het sk axanthic?
Pastel is het VPI axanthic and it is compatible with SK axanthic?
OR there is some other gene working in there somehow...a new codom or something.

Anybody have any other input or guesses.....I can't wait til the lil guy leaves the egg and I can determine if he/she is pastel for sure or not.

RandyRemington Jul 16, 2006 07:17 PM

Cool, keep after it and figure it out and let us know!

Here is another, I suppose even less likely options:

Pathogenesis, the axanthic baby is an SK axanthic clone of mom. I think there is even a second documented kind of pathogenesis in snakes where it would be a male.

I believe some crosses where done between SK and a het VPI line so there certainly could be some of each line with the other gene now. Also not sure that anyone has done the homozygous X homozygous test to be absolutely sure they aren't compatible but if the het VPI male from the original test was legit the reported odds seem to support them not being compatible.

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