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hey all, I've got an eight foot female peru x..she has egurged twice and i can't figure out why..she has gained alot of weight in the past 3 months or so..she was with my male for about the entire month of march..any help thanks......
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

that would be like telling us you were sick, and that's it... and asking us why....

well, there are many things we would need to know to even begin helping you!

What's the set up like? Where?
What are the temps - inside, outside, hotspot?
Is this a WC/Import/LTC or a CBB animal?
What are you feeding it?
How long after did it regurge?
Did you play with it?
Was there anything done to the cage?
Were there any strong cleaning agents used anywhere near it?
Did you change the kind of prey you are feeding it?
Did you feed it more than usual?
Is the animal behaving different than normal?
and there are many other questions I can ask to assist with this...

You mention she has gained lots of weight in the past 3 months... that would mean she is being fed heavily, unless she was previously not being fed at all... and in that case, maybe the excessive feeding caught up to her.. BCC can't be fed like colombians...

Best Wishes....

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

she is kept in a 4'x 20" x 20" cage i built temps run between 85 and 90 the humidity is 50 to 70 it goes up and down i spay her everyday..she has always eatin every 2 weeks she eats 2 medium rats the last to times she has ate she has regurged..she is a cbb..she is getting rally thick in the back by her tail she has prob gained about 4lbs in the last 3 months...hope this is enough..
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

Thick in the back before the vent? That is constipation. Looks like you overfed your BCC. It would be a very good idea once you get this all straighted out, if you started feeding one rat per feeding, just pick the right sized rat (the widest part of the rat the same size as the widest part of the snake on empty).

How soon after the regurg did you feed again? If you fed it again two large rats two weeks later this is certainly the cause of the second regurg. It is very bad for a snake to regurg (especially 2 rats regured at one time! yikes!), plus it can become a habit, especially with a BCC Wait a month, then feed it one small-medium rat. This will allow time for the ripped up insides of your poor snake to heal up. If it can keep that down then in another two weeks try a medium rat. If that stays down you can go to the right sized prey then.

If the snake regurges again after the wait and the smaller prey, take it to the vet. You need to answer all thoe other questions bcijoe asked too, like did you change the type of food etc. Most likly though you just overfed it.

Good luck,
Caden

Thick in the back before the vent? That is constipation. Looks like you overfed your BCC. It would be a very good idea once you get this all straighted out, if you started feeding one rat per feeding, just pick the right sized rat (the widest part of the rat the same size as the widest part of the snake on empty).

How soon after the regurg did you feed again? If you fed it again two large rats two weeks later this is certainly the cause of the second regurg. It is very bad for a snake to regurg (especially 2 rats regured at one time! yikes!), plus it can become a habit, especially with a BCC Wait a month, then feed it one small-medium rat. This will allow time for the ripped up insides of your poor snake to heal up. If it can keep that down then in another two weeks try a medium rat. If that stays down you can go to the right sized prey then.

If the snake regurges again after the wait and the smaller prey, take it to the vet. You need to answer all thoe other questions bcijoe asked too, like did you change the type of food etc. Most likly though you just overfed it.

Good luck,
Caden

I misread your post, and you were feeding 2 mediums rats, so when you resume feedingmake it a weaned rat, then try a small the second feeding.

Sorry,
Caden

my 3 1/2 year old has been eating 2 small to medium rats for about a year so i dont think she over ate..she weighs about 20lbs and she is close to 7 1/2 foot..she is not getting bigger close to her vent its more toward the last 1/3rd of her body..she may be gravid and i know regurging is very bad i'll wait on feeding her for at least 3 weeks..thanks for the advice...
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

could be many things.. so far, either she is gravid or she is constipated...

1) has she been in contact with any males over the last few months?
(she would also get thinner in her upper 3rd, and she may stay in heat reserve position often)

2) have you seen recent, regular, normal bowel movements?
if not, try soaking her and she should release...

then you want to ask if she's been in contact with any sick animals lately... this could be wc, imported, or even cbb that hasn't been quarantined.

-Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

yes she was with my male for over a month and that was in march..no she has not been around any sick animals..and her last movement was about a week ago..thanks
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

does she tend to stay in heat reserve? (on the heat, on the hot side, or in a coiled position)

is her first third getting thinner?

did you ever see the pair lockup? or
did you notice Ovulation in the female? or
has she refused food at anytime in the past 3 months?
does her fat part (lower third) look a bit lumpy/bumpy on her sides, where it bulges out a bit?
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

i did see them lock up a few times she mainley stays in the water dish at all times... thanks..
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

now the fact that they were locked up can very well mean she is gravid..

however, staying in the water bowl also has its implications...

she may think it's too hot, or too cold, or can have mites...

is the water bowl above the heat? cool side/hot side?

How about you post a picture?!
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

i have never had mites and my water dishes are sitting on a mounted shelf on the cool side..i believe she is gravid and i will keep a very close eye on her..thanks..
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1.0 pastel 7'
0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 8'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
16 babie boas
1.1 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'