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SUPER MOTLEY PICS......

millenniummorphs Jul 19, 2006 04:19 PM

Here is a pic of the SUPER MOTLEY ...He is a little male ...

I read some of the responses to my post about the Super Motley, and want to make it clear that I did not in any way shape or form risk the life of the 18 month old mother. Someone was unhappy to hear that I bred her at 18 months of age, and they made some rediculous comments. First of all, I dont understand how someone could possibly say that I put the female in jeopardy, when they have never even seen her. They do not the know size of her or her condition at the time I bred her.

I just want everyone to understand that each animal is different, and I made a judgement call to breed her. I felt confident in my decision and thankfully it work out for the best. I am proud of this little super motley and felt like I had enough experience to make a call like this. So please understand that I did not risk my 18 month old female...

Replies (14)

ajfreptiles Jul 19, 2006 04:37 PM

You lucky guy Adam!!! It's a male! Congrats man! Andy Federico
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vcaruso15 Jul 19, 2006 06:03 PM

Major congrats she looks awesome. In regards to breeding early it is really a judgement call. Personally I don't think I would do it, but thats just me and my opinion may change over time and with more knowledge. I just dont think I could get my females up to size in that amount of time. I am not one for power feeding and I think that will benifit me in the long run. I can see how power feeding a female will get her to size in 18 months, and in a business where time is money I can see why you would do it. You made a judgement call with your animal and had the results been different you may not feel the way you do now, but in the end it is your decision and you did what you felt is right and that is all that matters. No matter what you do you cant make everyone happy so don't sweat it. Congrats again Vinnie Caruso

skyslinger Jul 19, 2006 06:04 PM

"Good for you!" for not being afraid to voice your opinion in this world of "moral police" we often find ourselves in. I am sure you did NOT put any of your animals in jeopardy. I am very happy for you.
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Ty
Rat Race Solutions
www.ratracesolutions.com

vcaruso15 Jul 19, 2006 06:08 PM

We ALL put our animals in jeopardy ANY time we breed them. We all know breeding puts alot of stress on females and anything can go wrong at any time. Any time you deciede to breed an animal you are taking a risk that she or he for that matter may not make it.

millenniummorphs Jul 20, 2006 01:48 AM

Thank you very much......

fgs Jul 19, 2006 06:40 PM

Adam:

Hearing what you have done is like breath of fresh air. For years I have been living in this camp that believes if a wild snake was capable of finding a lot of food and it grew to a size that would allow it to give birth who would be there to stop it. Nature would have its way.

I bred colubrids for about 15 years. I was told by some of the most expereinced breeders in the country that you couldn't double clutch Arizona Montain Kings. Lucky for me my snakes didn't understand English. I double clutched them for years with no ill effects.

Great Job, Way to go!!!

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

Shane Kinney Jul 19, 2006 07:56 PM

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PBM Jul 19, 2006 08:25 PM

Can't wait to see some post shed pics of the little guy. Nice job!

Paul Mitzelfelt

ChrisGilbert Jul 19, 2006 10:05 PM

results! I know I have a wide range in size for my '04 females (most of my females are '04). All were on the same feeding schedule from the start, but they range in size from 3.5 ft. to 6.5 ft. Some animals grow and mature MUCH faster than others.

Most are mature at three, some breed at 18 months, others have to be 5 years old.

BNixon Jul 20, 2006 04:10 AM

I know what you mean, all the girls I have are 2004 with the exception of my sunglow and she was from 2005....the 2004 girls are between around 3.5 ft or so and the biggest is way over 6 and heavy! They will be breeding this year if they are over 15 lbs.
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Brandon Nixon

BOtt Jul 19, 2006 11:26 PM

That's a fantastic looking snake

How big was the mom that produced them? How many offspring did she have in total? No harrassment, just interest
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~Brian Ott

www.squamations.com

Explicit_Reptiles Jul 20, 2006 12:49 AM

Thats one great super and I dont think you should feel the need to explain yourself so much on your situation. Im sure you know what you are doing and know your female best.

Congrats!
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Chris Farmer
Explicit Reptiles
www.explicitreptiles.com

millenniummorphs Jul 20, 2006 01:52 AM

Thank you....some people just agravated me when they say things without having the experience or knowledge with the actual animal that they are speaking about. He knew nothing about this girl or her abilities. Shes a TANK......

CrestedGecko.com Jul 20, 2006 11:41 AM

That is one awesome boa! Make sure to post pics on your future litters! Congrats!

Garrick DeMeyer
Royal Constrictor Designs
www.crestedgecko.com
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