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here's 3 of the nicer baby nj temps i had hatch out for me a few weeks ago.had a half striped one in the clutch but it died immediately out of the egg;should have got a pic of it.but these are beauties to me anyway.

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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

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that one with the black head is really cool looking. Thanks for posting the pics...
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

I REALLY like that last spotted one. IMHO this is the real pattern morph that originiated out of Ocean County NJ. You can breed 1.1 spotted types and 1.1 100% stripe types and the make up of the offspring will be virtually the same. Congrats now get busy feeding them!

yeah paul that one is the one i am possibly considering holding back-the extra white on that one sorta reminds me of a western milk(e.g. taylori)......hey tony,thanks;yeah i've always considered the spotted(aka bullseye or reversed pattern) specimens to be just showing hints of,but just a little,of their striped lineage;obviously how much so varies.i take it pattern anomolies are notpredictable,or much less so than pigment anomolies.the partents of these are shown below...both equally spotted,from sparks'/bartlett's(?) striped ocean county line.

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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

....these are bartlett's original bloodlines;produced by bob deptula of hopyard herps.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

Correct, the lineage was started by Carl with founder stock before 1970. Carls friends, the Jessups of Connecticut, produced the first striped baby (25% striped female) and then gifted all the offspring and parents back to Carl. Carl raised them and eventually tried several failed breedings of daughter back to the father. The subsequent breeding of daughter to a brother finally opened the striped floodgate, producing an amazing array of offspring.

Tony is correct in stating that the degree of adult stripe proved a poor indicator of stripe degree in offspring.
I can tell you this with a fair degree of certainty though, no temporalis breedings have ever produced more variable offspring in both color and pattern than this line did for Carl, astounding variation.

Congrats on the fine looking clutch!

Unrelated, Bob Deptula (good friend, no relation) is one of many that have combined the Calvert hypo stock with Carls striped genetics. Interestly enough, the Calvert hypos have actually produced striping themselves, as fully striped pure hypo/T-positive Calverts have been produced for numerous years now by another breeder friend.

Walt Deptula

T has anyone actually done the test to determin this is the case? Any info would be appriciated.

Tony, not that I know of. Some believe them to be T-positive so I just note the possibility. I don't want to get too ahead of myself but I am waiting for a female to drop eggs from a breeding which might shed some light on the true nature of the hypo/T-positive question.

Walt

Congrats, those are awesome snakes. I really like the last one with the spotted pattern. Your adults are beautful. Thanks for sharing.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Great looking snakes. I have an 03 spoted/stripped female that I've been trying to get a mate for. I got her from AC (originally produced by Ted Thompson)
Steve