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AARRGGHH!!

hoot Jul 21, 2006 03:22 AM

What a horrible day!!!

Today, I discovered that two of my bps shed last night (or at least tried to). Neither had a complete shed. I soaked the first one and got it all off. The second one had retained 90% of her skin, so I soaked her and put her back in her enclosure after misting it. I didn't even realize they were going to shed. So, I guess I've got to get better light on the rack. Five of my snakes refused feeding today. And finally, to top it all off, my girl that I bought at a show about a month ago, that I've been treating for mites and finally have that beat, defecated tonight, and her feces is FULL of WORMS!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!! The way my luck has gone today, I'm almost sure that tomorrow will be my herp vet's day off.

Thanks for letting me vent.
Steve

Replies (6)

hoot Jul 21, 2006 03:23 AM

I guess it could be worse. At least none of my snakes ate an electric blanket!

Steve

ginebig Jul 21, 2006 04:18 AM

Well, I hope the vet is in today . As for the stuck sheds, there are a couple things you can do. You can wet a pillow case, put the snake in it and tie it shut. Put this in a tub with or without some sort of heat source under one half and let the snake work the shed off for an hour or so. I'm led to believe this almost always works. If not, keep the humidity in the enclosure up and the snake should eventually work it all off. You can also help by gently peeling the loose edges you find. It's time consuming, yes, but it will all come off in time. Maybe some others here have more ideas. Good luck.

quig

hoot Jul 21, 2006 04:35 AM

quig,
Thanks. Actually, the vet clinic is open 24 hrs, but they only have one herp vet. I called, and she's not in til Sunday. (Told ya she'd be off tomorrow). I have an appt at 3:20pm Sunday. I bought this snake, along with another one, from a seller at a show about a month ago. I haven't seen any worms from the other one, but I'll take her to the dr too. As far as the sheds go, the first one came off no problem. I soaked the snake in 85 degree water for about 1/2 hour, covered his head with a towel, and gently removed the skin. The other snake had retained so much skin, that I decided to let her get as much off as she could herself after soaking. I use clay pot hides in the enclosures. When I see a snake go opaque, I mist the pot, which raises the humidity in the enclosure to around 80%. Unfortunately, I didn't notice either of these snakes being opaque! I misted #2's pot before putting her back in. I'll check her tomorrow, and if needed, I'll soak her again and help her get the rest off.

Kingofspades Jul 21, 2006 05:09 AM

The "joy" of owning ball pythons eh?
Haha.
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-Man fears the beast in the Wolf because he does not understand the beast within himself.

hoot Jul 21, 2006 09:43 AM

More to the point... the "joy" of buying ball pythons from unknown individuals at shows. In my best Paul Harvey voice -

And now, the REST of the story. About a month ago, I went to a local herp show. I bought a total of five ball pythons. The two I have already mentioned, and three granite het albino hatchling females. I also bought a couple of hatchling racks from the seller with the het albinos, and a hatchling rack from the seller with the two big girls. The seller that I bought the two normal females from had several others that were unsexed. I told him that I was interested in the females once they were sexed. I wandered off and bought the three albino hets. When I came back by, he said the others had mites and he pulled them off. He offered to refund my money, but I decided I could treat the mites, and kept the two snakes. I got them home, quarantined them, and treated with Provent-A-Mite. Meanwhile, the three het albinos began showing signs of bacterial infections. I took all three to the vet, and she started treatment with Baytril, Flavyl, and Ivomec. A week or so later, one was still not doing well, so I took her back to the vet, and we treated some more. Those three are finally doing better. Yesterday, I had decided that I was ending the quarantine, and would move the two big girls into my rack in the next week or so. There has been absolutely no sign of mites since the first day. Then last night happened. Guess what??? The quarantine is back in effect full force! I'm depending heavily on the two big girls this season. One is about 1500gms and the other is just over 2kg. I really, REALLY want to breed these girls this season! Five snakes from one show, as of Sunday, all five will have been to the dr, not for initial checkups, but to treat illnesses.

The moral of this story? If you buy snakes at a reptile show, take them to the vet for an initial checkup, and possibly preventative treatment! If they are purchased from someone you don't know, and isn't a mainstream breeder, don't even consider not taking them to the vet!!!! Chances are, you will anyway!

I have three shows to go to in the next three weeks, starting tomorrow. This won't stop me from purchasing, but if I do, I'll be making an appt to see the dr! (Besides, the dr is cute!)

I don't know if either of the sellers is on this list, but if they are, I've probably given enough information that they know who they are! I don't hold any grudges against the sellers. The guy that sold me the two big girls did offer a refund up front because of possible mite infestation. It is POSSIBLE that the other guy had no idea that the hatchlings were sick. If I see them at the show tomorrow, I'll mention it, but thats as far as it goes. Oh, I won't be buying any snakes from either of them!!!! Not a grudge, just "safe snakes".

Steve

pythoner Jul 21, 2006 03:06 PM

I have also learned the hard and expencive way to buy from reputable breeders....

my first story is when I was getting out of burms and retics I was looking to get some het albinos and I found one guy selling a bunch of possible hets....I bought a 50% het albino and the guy shipped it US Mail in an evelope! I called him immediatly because the snake weighed 30~grams and had a whole shed stuck and was just plain terrible....He offered to send another at no cost and didn't seem worried about it and said that it was healthy when it left him!!!She was shipped in a box that was 1x1x10 and no insulation in the middle of summer...I live in southern GA where it is usually 95 and up....she live and we call her our 50% het normal....she may go this year but next year for sure...

Second story is when I went to the Daytona show I purchase a large "female" ball python from a soposid reputible breeder/seller and he said 250 for a 1800gram feamle and I couldn't pass it up.....I didn't sex it for over a year and it was acculy a male that I sold for 25 dollars to a wholesaler I know

I now have delt with many reputible breeders and by far the best person has been Jon @ Next World Exotics... He is great to work with and an immaculate collection and record keeping that is far better than I could ever seem to do (until I wanted to have records like his)

I hope that this never happens to me agian....it has happened numerous times since I got into balls but it never happened in any other markets that I have been involved in I hope that honesty prevals and it doesn't happen often....but hope is usually for dreamers and fools...

Thanks
Stephen

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