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Hi
Wanted to ask if they are as nervous,secretive as Pueblans and how are they overall when it comes to feeding ?

Thanks

i'd have to tell you they're for a 'more advanced' keeper than a campbelli...babies are tiny,much smaller than pueblans;usually will only take lizards at first;and may not be any more flighty/wriggly than pueblans,but sure aren't any less so.probably more secretive as well.so yeah you may want to give it a second thought,lol...not trying to talk you out of anything,just passing along info.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

Posted by: justinian2120 at Tue Aug 1 00:31:42 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

i'd have to tell you they're for a 'more advanced' keeper than a campbelli...babies are tiny,much smaller than pueblans;usually will only take lizards at first;and may not be any more flighty/wriggly than pueblans,but sure aren't any less so.probably more secretive as well.so yeah you may want to give it a second thought,lol...not trying to talk you out of anything,just passing along info.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

You did me a favor by telling me that . I like the small tri colors and find those real pretty but dont want constant hiding like a pueblan .
I dont have a pueblan but my friend does and it hides 24/7 .
I am looking at a nelsom/pueblan hybrid to but not sure .

I see my albino ruthven almost every day he comes out at night climbs the driftwood ,etc and thats what I was looking for but in a tricolor that wont go over 3 to 4 feet but think no real option . Might as well than just go with an anaconda lol kidding .

I no longer work with them but did for several years. My adults were easy to feed and maintain, especially during the breeding season. The hatchlings are very small. Sometimes too small to feed on 1 day old pinks. I found two solutions. First, a local rodent breeder had a colony of siamese mice. Slightly smaller than your typical white lab mouse. The babies were smaller and some of my hatchlings could handle these at 1 day. After a couple of days even these pinks were too big. The second solution was to cut off the rear legs from a frozen thawed fuzzy. Then I would take an x-acto knife and de-bone the leg. I then moistened the leg and hand fed these to the hatchlings. A lot of work, very time consuming, but well worth it in my opinion.

The size of the babies has a lot to do with locality. The west Texas localities seem to be about the size of annulata when they hatch where the New Mexico localities are smaller.
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Steve W.

Posted by: swwit at Tue Aug 1 13:40:48 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

The size of the babies has a lot to do with locality. The west Texas localities seem to be about the size of annulata when they hatch where the New Mexico localities are smaller.
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Steve W.

thanks I was looking at sites/pics and also noticed some real pretty and some other areas not as pretty .

Posted by: John Q at Tue Aug 1 10:34:50 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

I no longer work with them but did for several years. My adults were easy to feed and maintain, especially during the breeding season. The hatchlings are very small. Sometimes too small to feed on 1 day old pinks. I found two solutions. First, a local rodent breeder had a colony of siamese mice. Slightly smaller than your typical white lab mouse. The babies were smaller and some of my hatchlings could handle these at 1 day. After a couple of days even these pinks were too big. The second solution was to cut off the rear legs from a frozen thawed fuzzy. Then I would take an x-acto knife and de-bone the leg. I then moistened the leg and hand fed these to the hatchlings. A lot of work, very time consuming, but well worth it in my opinion.

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Oh gosh I didnt think that small but I see now they are. I saw a one yr old for sale at a reptile show so never thought baby so small.
I agree they are pretty. Seems they are rather secretive to and I didnt think they were. I saw them as Pueblans who werent secretive but think I am wrong.

I got a pair of juvies about 5 years ago, they were very skittish, like a wild milksnake, but were voracious rodent eaters. Now that they are 5 years old, they are very tame, and tolerate handling and even take mice from the tongs.

I bred them last year, and out of 6 eggs, four sucessfully hatched.
All but one took ft pinks immediately, the other took 3 months to train. I bred them again this year, and have 7 eggs ready to hatch any minute.

here is one of last years at one month after hatching.