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Dumeril Color Change

reptilicus81 Aug 01, 2006 05:40 PM

My male dumerils has gone through a major color change after his last two sheds! He is a younger 5 footer, and was relatively dark when I first picked him up 5 months ago. He is now very light in coloration! He shed yesterday and it was like looking at a new snake. His last shed was when I first noticed he was lighter, but he has gotten even lighter after this shed which surprised me!

Two months ago

Now

Is it normal as they age to see them lighten? My other girls have only darkened
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8.15 Normal ball pythons
2.0 Pastel ball pythons
1.0 Plains Garter
0.1 Normal Kenyan Sand Boa
1.1 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
1.2 Dumeril's Boa
-----My list is too long, so I'll stop here!
*Amy*

Replies (8)

jxoxexy Aug 02, 2006 12:07 PM

I would like to see pictures of how much lighter you are talking about. =)

reptilicus81 Aug 02, 2006 04:19 PM

This pic was shortly after I got him. The first pic I posted in my 1st message shows him after shed a couple of months ago...and the last two pics show him after this past shed..even lighter than before.

Thanks!
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8.15 Normal ball pythons
2.0 Pastel ball pythons
1.0 Plains Garter
0.1 Normal Kenyan Sand Boa
1.1 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
1.2 Dumeril's Boa
-----My list is too long, so I'll stop here!
*Amy*

reptilicus81 Aug 07, 2006 01:51 PM

I think this is the slowest forum on kingsnake! Isn't there anyone out there who is interested in this forum (other than me!) Oh well
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8.15 Normal ball pythons
2.0 Pastel ball pythons
1.0 Plains Garter
0.1 Normal Kenyan Sand Boa
1.1 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
1.0 Mid-Baja Rosy Boa
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
1.2 Dumeril's Boa
-----My list is too long, so I'll stop here!
*Amy*

jxoxexy Aug 07, 2006 05:36 PM

hah I know, if only there was a plethora of dumeril's in the pet trade, but I guess we're confined to the few and unique.
I have no answers for your situation, but I admire your dumeril's beauty! Before and after!

JoeWas Aug 21, 2006 07:21 AM

Daytona was this weekend and us breeders had to get ready or just make it to the show and meeting. This is the largest snake show in the world and it is very important to us reptile lovers. So, this should be a slow time on the boards.

As to the color change, Dumerils are noted for color change some do not even need to shed to change my newest clutch had nine and some stay dark most of the time and some stay light. I tool the lightest colored two [both females] out and put them together then divided the boys and girls up. an hour later and the lightest female was as dark as the darkest male.

Like some other snakes the color change seems to be a mood thing. I have noted a night and day color change too. Lighter during the night.

I tend to sort these by lightest and pinkest as keepers. Some of the darker ones get some green tinges that are atractive too.

The dark snakes seem to get darker with age, the ligter ones may stay lighter or go dark. Only a few get lighter with time, as their primary shade. The change from hue to hue is a mood thing as far as I can tell.

The Papuan python [Apodora papuana] has the extraordinary change from a pale light mustard yellow to nearly black. My standard house snakes, mainly the males do a five or six shades change from normal to lighter at night, every night.

The Dumerils go only a few shaded up and down and seem to have this change more with mood than night and day.

Your lighter with each shed may indicate a shift to a normal lighter stage. Most like the darker normal stage. It can also indicate a lack of UV light or bioflavonoids in the diet, color pigments in the foods diet could also be a problem?

The rodents need a good diet high in dark color foods to bring out the complex colors in snakes!

reptilicus81 Aug 22, 2006 03:59 PM

Thanks for the reply! My rodents are always fed the same diet(no pigments), plus the snake hasn't eaten in my care...not sure about the UV as none of my snakes ever get any UV except for an occasional outdoor photo session. I am leaning towards a mood change! I think he is less stressed and finally being taken care of properly, so he may be shifting to his normal coloration.
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8.15 Normal ball pythons
2.0 Pastel ball pythons
1.0 Plains Garter
0.1 Normal Kenyan Sand Boa
1.1 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa
1.0 Mid-Baja Rosy Boa
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
1.2 Dumeril's Boa
-----My list is too long, so I'll stop here!
*Amy*

slitheringin Sep 01, 2006 10:32 PM

In reading your post about color change you mentioned the diet of the Dumeril's prey and also UV light possibly being a factor in color.

I'm a new Dum owner, and plan on obtaining more of these amazing creatures. I am raising my own rats and would appreciate your suggestions as to what I would feed my rats to supplement their normal diet of grains & food blocks. What kind of "dark" greens are you referring to? Also regarding UV light; do you recommend putting a light inside the cage? Would a light with 2% UVB work or should I just go with a good quality full spectrum flourescent?

JoeWas Sep 02, 2006 12:58 AM

See my posts above to you new thread.

Snakes need the lowest UV output bulbs and for short times only.

Any dark colored foods of any color are good supplements for rodents.

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