all good info sean,thanks.....now,i'm not a camera pro,but i believe what peter is referring to is,like you said,depth of field....but d.o.f. is improved(increased) by actually a smaller aperture,not larger....correct me if i'm wrong but i think he's getting the narrow d.o.f. from a wide open aperture,which is what the camera will do to compensate for lower lighting....to get a shot with nice d.o.f.-smaller aperture-he'll need increased lighting.he could use a flash,and like you said stand back from his subject,letting the camera do the zooming,perhaps with a nice macro lens?btw sean regardless of how slow the herping is in a.n.f. right now,can you at least give us some more of those habitat shots?(you know,sunsets,longleaf flatwoods,maybe some dwarf palmetto hammocks,cypress swamps,the like).thanks!really,those are favorites of mine,nice 'eye'.

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