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I bought this butter about 6 weeks ago. I have a question about his color. When I saw him on the table at the Indy show, I immediatly loved his look. But I have been looking at the classifieds and most of the butters are much lighter in color. Is this too dark to be a butter, or are they that variable as hatchlings? I had been thinking about this for awhile, but after Jimmy's comment on the golddust below about the darker colors in butters becoming beautiful adults, I thought I would ask.

Regardless, I am very happy with this new guy. My hognose has been fasting for 6 weeks, and this guy has been his garbage disposal. Great little eater.

The last picture is blurry but the best representation of the color.

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1.1 Corn (Butter-Jack Straw '06/Amel Motley-Cosmo '03)
0.1 Baird's Ratsnake (Sugaree '04)
1.0 White Oaks Grey Rat (Tennesse Jed '04)
0.1 IJ Carpet Python (Cassidy '04)
1.0 Western Hognose (Samson '05)
1.1 Shepherd mix (Dylan 7yrs, Porter 2yrs)

>>I bought this butter about 6 weeks ago. I have a question about his color. When I saw him on the table at the Indy show, I immediatly loved his look. But I have been looking at the classifieds and most of the butters are much lighter in color. Is this too dark to be a butter, or are they that variable as hatchlings? I had been thinking about this for awhile, but after Jimmy's comment on the golddust below about the darker colors in butters becoming beautiful adults, I thought I would ask.
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>>Regardless, I am very happy with this new guy. My hognose has been fasting for 6 weeks, and this guy has been his garbage disposal. Great little eater.
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>>The last picture is blurry but the best representation of the color.
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wow,
I really like that butter.
That butter has a little bit darker contrasting saddles then
I have seen.
I would be very interested to see how that snake develops.
Please keep us updated.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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You should be happy with that little butter corn. That's an outstanding example of one. Yours is showing an excellent amount of yellow at this early stage of it's life. If it was a choice between yours and another one that had lighter colored saddles, I'd pick yours in a heartbeat. Very nice.

Steve

I agree, I think that is going to be a really nice snake, Brad Lichtenhan

I agree, beautiful Butter. They are my favorite.

I agree, he looks great!! Here is a pic of adult male butter for you.

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2.4 ball pythons
1.1 sand boas
1.2 corn snakes
1.0 southern plains rat
1.1 black rat snakes
1.0 striped Cali king
1.0 western hog
1.0 wc eastern garter

Your Butters looking great. I also sent you an email.

Steve

Thanks for the responses. I thought he was a great example of what I thought a hatchling butter should look like, but like I said he looked like he had darker saddles then other pics I have seen lately. He is in the blue now so I will post better pics when he has shed.
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1.1 Corn (Butter-Jack Straw '06/Amel Motley-Cosmo '03)
0.1 Baird's Ratsnake (Sugaree '04)
1.0 White Oaks Grey Rat (Tennesse Jed '04)
0.1 IJ Carpet Python (Cassidy '04)
1.0 Western Hognose (Samson '05)
1.1 Shepherd mix (Dylan 7yrs, Porter 2yrs)

Great looking snake, first of all!

However, it is really hard to see what color his eyes are. Could you describe them, or post a picture for us?

Butters are animal homozygous for amelanism, and should have amel eyes (red of varying shade), but the pics you've shown appear to exhibit darker eyes. At least they do from the angles I'm seeing.

Can you help me see the butter eyes in some way???
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

...based on the pictures presented, I'd classify that snake as a nice looking AMBER. It's eyes look far too dark to be a butter. A better photo of the head/eyes would be nice, but I'd imagine we won't see the characteristic red pupil of an animal homozygous for amelanism.

-Kat
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This Space For Rent

Thanks for the feedback Darin. He does have red eyes, and I will try and get a pic up soon. I guess we can continue this conversation after I get new and better pics after he sheds.

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1.1 Corn (Butter-Jack Straw '06/Amel Motley-Cosmo '03)
0.1 Baird's Ratsnake (Sugaree '04)
1.0 White Oaks Grey Rat (Tennesse Jed '04)
0.1 IJ Carpet Python (Cassidy '04)
1.0 Western Hognose (Samson '05)
1.1 Shepherd mix (Dylan 7yrs, Porter 2yrs)

Looks more like an amber. All my butters are lighter in color(pic). They don't have any dark brown on them.
However, that is one awesome looking snake!

Looks like a caramel to me. It's a beautiful snake...

Walt

Caramel usually have more gray and of course the caramel color.

Ahhh ! OK ... thanks!

Walt