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Is stripe a genetic trait??

thegeckobarn Aug 03, 2003 06:00 PM

I hatched 2 babies today and yesterday. One is a stripe, the other is an abberant. Both from the same clutch.
The female that laid them had never given fertile eggs before these two.
*for some reason my pictures or links dont want to show up
And the father has only given me normal babies.

You can see the stripe here: http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbumPhoto.asp?userid=lildawna&album_id=82784&image_id=37

and the abberant here: http://www.printroom.com/ViewAlbumPhoto.asp?userid=lildawna&album_id=82784&image_id=34

and the mother here: http://thegeckobarn.no-frills.net/images/hera.jpg

Replies (13)

divinitry Aug 03, 2003 06:04 PM

not a recessive trait or anything like that...either the mother or father of either the male or female that mated to create those hatchlings was probably a stripe. with stripes and jungles, its kind of luck of the draw as far as the odds of producing them. obviously, two jungles mating are gonna give you more of a chance for jungle offspring, but its not guaranteed.
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tribal prop Aug 03, 2003 06:29 PM

We are not sure where you aquired your information, but if you breed a "true stripe" with a normal you will get hets as it is a simple recessive trait. You are correct that jungle is a random pattern variation.

divinitry Aug 03, 2003 06:33 PM

...and i was under the assumption that it was the same deal. sorry for the mis-information and thank you for the correction
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Fritz Aug 03, 2003 06:46 PM

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tribal prop Aug 03, 2003 06:53 PM

Yes we have. We have also taken our stipe male and bred it to an albino female to make double hets (albino stripes) and evetually produced albino stripes.

E2MacPets Aug 03, 2003 07:24 PM

Even got one stripe.

I believe you are one of the few people to claim stripe as a simple recessive. If you have found such luck I would be proud to have some of your stock in my breeding pools. However it has not been my experience.

thegeckobarn Aug 03, 2003 08:00 PM

Hey Steven, its me Crysss (from the chatroom).
I totally didnt expect this, the mother is normal (supposedly DH PA) and the father is the same.
I was totally EXTATIC! LOL.
It was too cool, I even watched them hatch

iluvblackfrancis Aug 03, 2003 09:17 PM

i think it's possible that there is a strain of a recessive striped trait, and a line bred striped trait. in ball pythons there are striped balls, and there are genetic striped, the genetic striped being a simple recessive, and the plain striped, not.
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thegeckobarn Aug 03, 2003 09:58 PM

Not really sure yet if im should keep these two or not, we'll see.

Thanx again
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RoI3IN Aug 04, 2003 02:08 AM

my pair of stripers i got from you two bred and so far all babies have had full stripes head to tail. stripe x stripe = stripe babies. now im wondering if the jungle trait is maybe in someanimals a het form or its all part of the stripe gene i got stripers coming out the wazoo and plan on making some more different ones next year heheh
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tribal prop Aug 04, 2003 05:22 AM

Robin, we are glad to hear that you are producing so many stripes. We would agree that some of the animals may actually have the recessive trait and people may be lucking into the cross and producing stripes.

thegeckobarn Aug 04, 2003 09:05 AM

n/p
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goalielocks Aug 04, 2003 12:26 PM

I believe all stripes were originally line breed but if you get the right parents it is possible to get 100% stripes this is because there are only a few spots on the DNA strand where a striped gene can be these are called loci if you get parents that have the multiple genes in the same loci they will breed true like simple recessive. After years of breeding stripes the majority of the stripes will start to share the same gene loci until eventually stripes will breed as if they were a simple recessive. The reason this will never happen with jungles is that there is much more variation in jungles and different numbers of genes could be at work.