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just got my new frogs!

slapnutz Aug 08, 2006 12:57 PM

i am now the proud parent to 7 luecs!

they seem to be alright after shipping...taking their tiem to soak up their new giant home

yea!

Replies (6)

slaytonp Aug 08, 2006 11:52 PM

Congratulations! The leucs should be very happy in that new home, and use every inch of it, including the nice bromeliads you have in there. The Java moss will be a nice addition, and should work well as you have planned. As long as it has a good source of constant moisture, it will spread around. Some of those bromeliads, especially the Guzmania will get pretty big, and your closely planted tank will tend to over-grow, which may be frustrating to keep under control, but the frogs will love it.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

slapnutz Aug 09, 2006 11:26 PM

poor little guy came to me smaller than the other 6 and i was worried about him from the get go because of his size
i came home today and saw it layign on the ground. i noticed it was still breathing so i checked temps and humidty all wher etehy are supposed ot be..so i called LLLreptile (where i got teh frogs yesterday) and they said it may be 'toxing out' and i shoudl soak it for a bit in 1/4 inch of water. it started to perk up a bitso left him to soak...but when i came back it was dead

i put an email to them but i dont think anythign will coem of it becasue they only do live arival for amphibians...but im more sad about loosing teh frog.
fortunately the others seem to be doing ok.

will post more later.

-sad slappy

phflame Aug 10, 2006 09:43 PM

sometimes the stress of a new home is just too much for these little guys. Good luck with the rest of them.
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phflame
kingsnake.com host

slaytonp Aug 10, 2006 10:12 PM

This is one of the reasons most breeders recommend quarantining each new frog separately before intoducing them together in a common tank, where some intimidation and stress may occur, even with those who get along fairly well in a group, such as the leucs. This way, you can be assured that each frog is eating well, growing to an equal size, and any possible infectious problems are kept separate from the others. This preliminary quarantine period has been such an accepted protocol with dart keeping, that I failed to mention it to you, assuming that the breeder/seller had given you information and had quarantine care sheets available. They can be kept in something as simple as a plastic box with a damp paper towel on the bottom, with a few plant cuttings, or small critter keepers with the vents sealed off for humidity. I like the latter, since the frogs are more visible and less likely to escape when you open just the feeder lid, but you do have to seal all of the vents with sealing tape to preserve humidity. Instead of wet paper towel substrate that needs frequent changing, I prefer a shallow layer of cocoanut fiber and sphagnum, but the toweling does have advantages in that you can monitor the feces and amount of flies better, and if you need to collect feces for possible parasite examinations, this is easy.

I'm sorry this is information after the fact. But in the future, do consider quarantining in smaller containers before introducing the frogs all together in the permanent tank.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

slapnutz Aug 12, 2006 07:18 PM

i bought them all at teh same time from LLL reptile.
they were raised together so i didnt see the need to seperate them into 7 differnt tanks.

unfortunately it was teh smaller of the group that died...i was a little concerned that it was quite a bit smaller than the others when i got them.

i think it was the stress of shipping plus stress of a new home.
im sorry i couldnt have done more for it

but the others are doing fine. even establishing their own little territories in the big tank.

question to others who ahve abig tank...feeding...do you search out teh frogs to make sure they eat or just dump a ton of flies/insects in the middle and let them hunt them down?

also, how many cultures of flies should i keep on hand for 6 frogs? i have 2 active with one coming up..is that enough or shoudl i move up to 3 active and 2 in reserve?

slaytonp Aug 13, 2006 12:18 AM

You never know when your fruit fly cultures may crash for one reason or another, so keep well ahead of them--err on the over-culturing end rather than being lazy or stingy about it.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

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