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a moonglow to a triple het? what exactly wouild the out come be?

Ryan can you help me here? or anyone else

I can help you out if you give more information. As I understand it, moonglow is salmon and anerythristic. But what is the triple het? Please specify the three mutants that it is het for.

Paul Hollander

All I know is it just makes my head hurt just trying to think of them all!!! Take care. Andy
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first, is the Moonglow a Super? And second, is the Triple Het a Super?

Depending if one or both were Homozygous Hypo/Salmon would change the percentage odds.

But you would get:
Albino het anery
Sunglow (and Super) het anery
Ghost (and Super) het albino
Anery het albino
Hypo (and Super) het snow
Snow
Moonglow
Super Moonglow
If both are heterozygous Hypos then you would also get DH Snow. If both were Homozygous Hypos then all of the Hypo mutations (Hypo, Ghost, Sunglow, Moonglow) would all be Supers.

Neither animal are supers, both are just f1 hypos and the moonglow is a hypo /albino /anery. the triple het is a hypo that is just het for both anery and albino where the MoonGlow is the homozygous state of both albino and anery.

Thanks for your help guys, Just thought i would get some discussion going on the possiblities the moonglow bring to the table.

I haven't done that in a while, to me it isn't that important. I like to understand mutations on their own basis more, but I'll see if I can figure it out.

There are some places online that will give odds, or others here may be able to. I'll post when I am done.

was always going off of the triple het being just that, het for each Salmon, Albino and Anery

there are three possible percentage outcomes, both het, one het/one homozygous and both homozygous (for Salmon) assuming the other genes are unchanged. BTW, the numbers are the same as long as one parent is albino and the other is het for albino and the same with the Anery gene, aka moonglow x double het would be the same as sunglow het anery x anery het Albino etc. etc. Does not matter which parent has the genes.

So, the third possibility, both parents homozygous Salmons:

25% Moonglow
25% Ghost het Albino
25% Sunglow het Albino
25% Salmon het Albino, het Anery

ALL of which would be Homozygous Salmons

Did I mention I made my own spreadsheet to calculate the percentages?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
10.22 BRB
10.15 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Super Moonglows! That is, Dom. Hypo in the Moonglow. Cool stuff.

6.25% DH Snow
6.25% Albino het. Anery
6.25% Anery het. Albino
6.25% Snow
12.5% Hypo TH Moonglow
12.5% Sunglow het Anery
12.5% Ghost het Albino
12.5% Moonglow
6.25% Super Hypo DH Snow
6.25% Super Sunglow het Anery
6.25% Super Ghost het Albino
6.25% Super Moonglow

That is from a hypo het snow, to a moonglow. Neither parents were supers.

np

Two actual possibilities here:

first, the moonglow is het for hypo (most likely at this time)

18.75% Moonglow (33% homozygous Salmon)
18.75% Ghost het Albino (33% homozygous Salmon)
18.75% Sunglow het Anery (33% homozygous Salmon)
18.75% het Albino, het Anery, het Salmon (33% homozygous Salmon)

6.25% Snow
6.25% Anery het Albino
6.25% Albino het Anery
6,25% double het (Albino/Anery)

Second possibility is if the Moonglow is Homozygous for Salmon (don't know if there are any yet)

25% Moonglow (50% homozygous Salmon)
25% Ghost het Albino (50% homozygous Salmon)
25% Sunglow het Anery (50% homozygous Salmon)
25% het Albino, het Anery, het Salmon (50% homozygous Salmon)
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
10.22 BRB
10.15 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I guess I'm too slow, but I agree with your results.

Matt

I made my own spreadsheet to calculate the percentages. Saves on Tylenol
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
10.22 BRB
10.15 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

These posts will make your head spin as well...lol..I keep trying to get it...Andy
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n/p

I also agree with your results. Heres what I came up with. Same odds as yours except its split up a lil more.

6.25% super hypo moonglows
6.25% super ghosts het albino
6.25% super sunglows het anery
6.25% super hypo het anery het albino
12.5% moonglows
12.5% ghost het albino
12.5% sunglows het anery
12.5% triple het
6.25% snows
6.25% anery het albino
6.25% albino het anery
6.25% dh snow

100% of NICE BABIES

Steve

>>I also agree with your results. Heres what I came up with. Same odds as yours except its split up a lil more.
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Exactly what I had, you split the phenotypes into genotypes.

I made my spreadsheet based on phenotypes so only the visually distinguishable cagtegories would display.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
10.22 BRB
10.15 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

lol I took 15 minutes with a pen and paper... I wasn't sure at first if it was right untill I read your results.

Steve

it is easy and accurate. I use it when I dream of quad and quint gene carring snakes. Vinnie