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I'm currently overseas thousands of miles away so even keeping up with my family is a challenge. Internet comes & goes. But anywho: Here's a couple of not too good pics taken by a novice (my wife)who's terrified of technology. These are the golden corn babies (yes, I found out there may be TWO of them!!!). After looking at the pics over and over again, I thought I'd share them with some of you, because it DOES look like that one has yellow on it already (what do you think?)
Due to some infertility problems with a male that was less than a year old and only a little over two feet (but powerfed and cooled off for four weeks - I tried my best), I finally got the totals:
Golden corn breeding this year to her son results: 16 eggs - 11 slugs, one died in it's egg (?), and only 4 hatched. According to the wife, two of the babies have no orange on them and the other two do. I tried to tell the wife how to use my digicam and she tried her best. Check these (bad) pics that she took of them earlier today and you can see for yourself. She will take more pics tomorrow. Hopefully she'll figure out my camera a little better (I caught H_ll when I criticized her on her digicam skills,lol). Really sorry for the bad pics. But I should have more, better ones, tomorrow. BUT: My wife will take the mother Golden corn to Daytona this year to be put on display for a whole day (On Saturday only). You can see the Golden Corn at table 708 (with ECC - East Coast Colubrids).
Pics: First pic is two of the babies with the yellowish one in the center and a sibling running away, lol! Second pic shows the other siblings with a good wash of orange and the little one near the bottom is another non-orange individual.
Thanks for your patience,

Zee

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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

i think your wife did a nice job with the pics considering it was her first try!!!... and you should bring the golden to the richmond show for ECC to show off in october....i'd love to see!!!

~kin
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou) {Reduced black}
1.1 Anery het Motley (Lleroy, Persia)

Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)

Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)

Other:
0.0.1 Worm Snake

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
0.1 Blizzard (Blitz) SHE WAS FOUND ALIVE!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name)

Are you bringing them to Daytona?
Probably not.
I have been following this story since the first week it was posted over on "that other" corn snake forum, and I think you may have done it! Congratulations! if it really happened...
A new form of Hyperxanthism?
Guess you'll have to breed one of the male offpring to a caramel something or other to find out for sure....

AWESOME!
I'm happy for you.
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Jeremy J. Anderson
Gem State Reptiles
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DOH!! I should read the whole post before replying!! I am a little rusty on my forum skills, it's been a while.
I look forward to seeing the golden girl herself, and meeting your tolerant and cooperative wife, as well.
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Jeremy J. Anderson
Gem State Reptiles
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I brightened the bottom picture up a bit. The two corns trying to crawl out look normal with red coloration, while the bottom one looks anerythristic. It'll interesting to see if/how it develops the yellow coloration. Even if it doesn't, the breeding was questionable anyway. I'm sure it would prove out next year.

Thanks Nick!
How's it going, bro?
I will be getting more pics tomorrow or so. Hopefully then we'll be able to see more!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Zee:

Those sure look like the real deal to me. Huge congratulations. You sure accelorated that project.

Keep up the good work and tell your wife it was easy to see those are "caramel" types.

Don
www.cornsnakes.NET
South Mountain Reptiles

Thanks Don. Should be getting more pics real soon. Hopefully we'll be able to tell (even more so).

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Congrats Zee!

Was tGolden bred to a normal? Or to an offspring of the golden?

Just wondered if it's a simple recessive gene, or maybe a first! A true co dom?.

Again congrats

Big tom

Well, at first it was with her son for three weeks. I didn't notice any interest. He just kept trying to get out of the cage, lol. So at the last moment (of her cycle), I put a 5 foot male in there that I found only about a hundred yards away, because I didn't want this season to be a total loss. And those two DID lock up immediately! So, who knows, but time will tell!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

... next Wednesday night when I go to your house on my way to Daytona.

If you want, I can take some pictures of them with my Canon EOS Rebel and post them that night from my hotel.

These pictures you are posting that Linda took almost remind me of Sasquatch photos or Loch Ness Monster photo's!!! You know, grainy and you can't really make them out...

Let me know. I can have these pictures up on this forum if you want.

Take it easy,
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Peter Jolles
East Coast Colubrids
www.eastcoastcolubrids.com

Sure thing man. Take all the pics you want when you get there and DO post some of them - Thanks.

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

It will be great to see some good photos. That will be cool if it has proven to be reproducible, and now that you have some Male hets, you can use them to test the Golden to a Caramel carrier, instead of wasting a breeding with your female. The photos are not very good, but a couple of them do look like “Caramel” type hatchings. Until a test breeding is done between the Goldens and Caramels, they can not be claimed to be a new mutant gene. You have proven them to be reproducible, now there is one more step to take. It would be cool if they prove to be a new independent mutant gene.
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Joe Pierce
Snakes Alive!
"Home of the guaranteed feeders"
"If it won't eat, it is not worth a dime!"