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I have a couple Lepidus lepidus that were obtained last year and orginally we thought they were a pair but when we got home I tubed them and probed them both and they both probed out to be what I thought was female as the probe only went in 3-4 scales deep on each of them. Well I have had them now for almost a year and they are both doing fantastic, we have them housed separatly and one of them has really put on the weight and size more so than the other one even though they have eaten exactly the same meals.

So a couple weeks ago I thought well maybe one if really a male and the probe didn't go in as they were really tensing up when I did it originally. So tonight I tubed them and probed them again, however this time I used a smaller probe and they are now much more calm. This time they both took the probe well over 8 scales each. So then I did a post anal scale count to the base of the rattle on each of them they both have 26 scales. Are both of these males after all? This time the probe just slid in with out any problem.

Does anyone know the actually scale count difference between males and females with Crotalus lepidus lepidus?

Thanks,
Jason
KCRD

21-29 subcaudals in males
17-23 subcaudals in females

So they seem to be both males.
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Rob Olivier

www.natuuralbum.nl

...puts on the herp show at the Holiday Inn...Ya know, the one with all of the illegal activity and w/c animals...

I honestly don't know what you're talking about as far as the illegal activity goes. I have been and always will be liscensed to sell indiginous animals.