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You guys want big? How's this!

Sean Aug 13, 2006 10:45 PM

Found this just on the northern boundary of the ANF here in N FL tonight.

Well it's not a king but it was collected.

Replies (20)

antelope Aug 13, 2006 11:19 PM

Get 'em all Sean, nasty critters, eaten all the kingsnake food!
Todd Hughes

ECC Aug 14, 2006 12:03 AM

Wow that's pretty neat... and pretty sad as well.
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Peter Jolles
East Coast Colubrids
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althea Aug 14, 2006 01:05 AM

Yet another discarded pet because it grew larger than a kingsnake--so sad. At least it didn't make the news by grabbing some little old lady's poodle, causing her to go into cardiac arrest.

Hopefully it has a happier future?

althea

Sean Aug 14, 2006 11:02 AM

At least it didn't make the news

Not yet at least.

crimsonking Aug 14, 2006 05:42 PM

Now wouldn't that be a kick in the pants! People drooling over the thought of finding a burmese, tearing up the ANF and ruining the king's habitat.....nooo.
Say it ain't so...
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

BlueKing Aug 14, 2006 04:37 AM

...In the wild. (with all thses ignorant pet owners in the world relaeasing all kinds of animals into the wild these days -Especially Florida!).
Wow, that's a shame that we have to share the world with so many irresponsible people and can't do much about (ol' Jim-bo releasing his overgrown burmese python, cause' he got no room for it in his little 2 bedroom single wide . . .)

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

cochran Aug 14, 2006 12:03 PM

I like that one Zee! jeff

Sean Aug 14, 2006 12:36 PM

Zee, I know an old man up in Tennessee who's told me years ago he released a bunch of Western Diamondbacks on an island on the Mississippi River because he had to get rid of them. He also thought it would be cool to go back and find them but he hasn't seen a single one. This man used to be an officer AND worked for Animal Control for some years. That's just one story out of how many countless others we just don't know about.

BlueKing Aug 15, 2006 04:56 AM

N/m
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Upscale Aug 14, 2006 08:34 AM

WOW Is it me or is that a very healthy looking burm! I have never understood the theory that the everglades burms were the result of people driving way the heck out there just to release their overgrown pet. I figured if that was the case there would be wild burms in the bushes outside of every college town in the USA. I would like to know how far from "town" this burm was found. I guess cold winters will keep them in check, but they are seriously becoming established throughout Florida, at least. Too bad they aren't the "Indian", they'd never be endangered again.

Sean Aug 14, 2006 11:08 AM

Yeah it was a very healthy snake and calm. Obviously someone's pet that was used to being handled. It was found right by our airport which is just on the northern end of the ANF...southern end of the city. The closest homes are several miles away at least.

ChristopherD Aug 14, 2006 09:49 AM

i dont know, ive never owned either, seen a few burms and that one looks a lil different

foxturtle Aug 14, 2006 12:05 PM

Rock's have a bit of a different look to them than that.

crimsonking Aug 14, 2006 01:23 PM

I'd be damn careful not to bring it anywhere near my captives. For all we know the owner dumped it because of a serious underlying problem but couldn't bear to put it down..
Most likely was just dumped because the owner tired of it or had to "get rid of that thing" but who really knows?
Tests could be expensive. Sad.
Not all the "dumping" is done by BillyBob either. I know of reputable breeders who have told me they "take 'em out and let 'em go" when speaking of non-feeding corns and kings...
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

Sean Aug 14, 2006 01:47 PM

Not all the "dumping" is done by BillyBob either. I know of reputable breeders who have told me they "take 'em out and let 'em go" when speaking of non-feeding corns and kings...

I'm kind of surprised nobody ever finds Cornsnake morphs around the ANF.

FunkyRes Aug 14, 2006 03:54 PM

Morphs that survive to breed would quickly revert.
We've seen that kind of thing with plants - melons, tomatoes, etc. that go wild when farming leaves fairly quickly go back to what is better for natural selection than for human consumption.

There may be an increased number of morph hatchlings as recessive genes get together, but in most cases they would be less likely to survive.
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3.0 WC; 0.2 CB L. getula californiae
0.1 WC; 10 eggs (7/11) Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata

crimsonking Aug 14, 2006 05:37 PM

I had always thought that too but had to wonder about some morphs like anery corns.... Why would they not do as well as a gray rat? As far as looks, there's not a lot of difference....
There ARE some weird corns in and around Osceola and all my albino corns are from 2 wc found near my house. One was in my mice rack and I figured since she stole a mouse or two, I'd put her to work. The following year my son found an amel in a tree a few houses away. Obviously escaped pets (at least I know they weren't mine, I never had amels prior) they now make a nice couple.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

BlueKing Aug 15, 2006 04:59 AM

only a handful of uneducated people would do this. OF COURSE I KNOW I'M KIDDING MYSELF!!!!!!!! You're right Mark - THIS WORLD IS ALWAYS FULL OF SURPISES!!!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

crimsonking Aug 14, 2006 06:56 PM

Nat'l Geo. Explorer
Python vs. Gator....
Don't miss it!
check your local listings....
ha!
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

FunkyRes Aug 15, 2006 11:38 AM

I would definitely suspect it is a recent release since the pics do not show a lot of scarring - though I honestly don't know how much scarring a wild burmese in Florida would have.

If I am ever settled permanently enough to consider obtaining burmese pythons again, I think it would be a hoot to go to Florida during hatchling season and try to catch a couple hatchlings.

It would be cool to breed "Florida Locale" burmese pythons :D

Actually, I wouldn't breed them (too many breeders already for number of people that can properly care for them IMHO) - but it still would be cool to actually catch them.
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3.0 WC; 0.2 CB L. getula californiae
0.1 WC; 10 eggs (7/11) Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata

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