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Tricks to get baby to eat

Kaysie Aug 15, 2006 01:54 PM

My newborn is about 4 weeks old now. She may or may not have eaten before she left the previous owner (the mother had 36, and it was hard to keep them all distinct).

I offered f/t mouse, but she seemed more afraid of it than hungry. I offered her another a few days later, after she'd settled in, and she sniffed and swam away.

I'm going to get some smelt tonight and scent a mouse and see if that works. Does anyone have any other tricks?
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1.1.2 Python regius
0.0.1 Eunectes notaeus
0.0.1 Lampropeltis spp.
5.0.0 Ambystoma mexicanum
1.3.0 Triturus karelinii
1.3.0 Taricha granulosa
0.3.0 Ambystoma jeffersonianum
0.0.3 Salamandra salamandra
0.0.1 Tylototriton verrucosus
1.0.0 Grammastola cala
1.0.0 Homo sapiens 'Hottie'

Replies (6)

Jim123 Aug 15, 2006 06:16 PM

I have had several finicky snakes over the years. I have found most have a fond liking to fowl when offering rodents was not working. Kelly Haller who is a regular here authored an article in Reptiles a few years back. This article was solely on captive breeding anacondas and raising their young. He mentioned that they were easy to switch over to rodents once they were started on chicks. Since he has more experience then any other person I know in this department it is worth giving it a try in my opinion. I have no idea where you live but most feed stores will be able to get you day old rooster chicks for pennies. The only problem is you will have to purchase 100 or so. I'm not sure but some of the larger rodent suppliers may carry them. However it is without doubt going to cost more.

Jim

Sarge2004 Aug 15, 2006 07:52 PM

Take a small, warm frozen thawed rodent and soak it in warm, plain chicken broth. Place the scented rodent at the entrance to a hide and leave it overnight with the lights off. Baby anacondas in the wild are more bird eaters than anything. If this is a CBB anaconda I would not provide a lagre water area. Do yourself and the snake a favor by providing only drinking water and moderate humidity. As the anaconda grows keeping a large water area clean becomes a real problem and our water can cause skin problems. Kelly Haller and Jud McClanahan provide only drinking water and their anacondas thrive. What are your temps and humidity? Most of all be patient and keep trying as some babys will go months with out eating. Bill.
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...three years ago it was just another snake cult...
The Retic is King.
Anacondas-the other Dark Side.
Afrocks-the dark side of the Dark Side.

Kelly_Haller Aug 15, 2006 11:18 PM

As Jim correctly stated above, young greens are definitely programmed to feed on birds, and this is most apparent during their first year or so of life. And as Bill pointed out, if they will take it, the chicken broth method is the easiest. This preference for birds has also been shown to be the case with newborns in their natural environment, showing that this is not an artifact of captivity. From what we have experienced, probably 80 to 90% of young greens will take birds as a first meal before they show any interest in rodents. Typically they can be switched over to rodents by prey scenting after they have fed several times on birds. It really depends on the individual snake however, as some will switch over within a couple of weeks, while others may take several months to switch from birds, to scented rats, to unscented rats. Chicks are usually used as they are the most available birds for most people, but almost any bird will work. Along these lines, I believe Jud has found the holy grail of birds to start young greens on, as we have never seen it fail yet. Ducklings appear to be irresistible to young greens. Live chicks are usually considered the best there is for stubborn greens, but we have seen a very small number of greens that would not even look at a live chick immediately take a f/t duckling without hesitation. I have also seen young greens that showed absolutely no interest in rodents, hammer a young rat that had just been rubbed on a duckling for a few seconds. Ducklings are relatively expensive and sometimes hard to find, but are well worth it for starting a really difficult green.

Kelly

Kaysie Aug 16, 2006 08:31 AM

I should have specified that this is a baby yellow.

She did eat a fresh-killed mouse scented with salmon last night.

Thanks all for your tips.
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1.1.2 Python regius
0.0.1 Eunectes notaeus
0.0.1 Lampropeltis spp.
5.0.0 Ambystoma mexicanum
1.3.0 Triturus karelinii
1.3.0 Taricha granulosa
0.3.0 Ambystoma jeffersonianum
0.0.3 Salamandra salamandra
0.0.1 Tylototriton verrucosus
1.0.0 Grammastola cala
1.0.0 Homo sapiens 'Hottie'

tdobrov Aug 21, 2006 01:01 AM

I learned this trick from the staff at East Bay Vivarium. Place snake with food in a sealed box so she can't get out. Place box in cage overnight with lights off or low. Keep it quiet and check in the am. This has worked for my greens and yellows too. Not sure of the psychology or other co-factors but it worked and after a couple of these trys they ate under normal conditions.
I wish you the best!
Tom

RoswellBoa Oct 31, 2006 06:16 PM

My juvenile green was only a few weeks old when I got her...I went through many days of anguish as she refused all manner of pinkie/fuzzy rodents. Knowing anacondas are aquatic, I tried putting 6 1" feeder goldfish in her bowl. Once she smelled the water, she went crazy going after them, gobbling down all I would give her. Then, a few weeks later, I rubbed the head/body of fuzzy mice with the body of a feeder fish I kept in my freezer. A few weeks more, just the head of the mouse. It took about 2 months before she would take a rodent without the fish smell, now she grabs rodents left and right. Hope this helps!
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Heather J. Martin
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