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I posted this on the What Kind forum, but did not get a whol lot of response. I rescued this little one out of my church. It had obviously
been there for several days as it was dehydrated and in need of food. At first glance I automaticaly thought Florida Redbelly,
just like my other three, but on closer inspection I am not quite sure. For one thing, the belly is yellow, and the tell tale striping
is not behind the head. it does have the white cheek patch and did curl its lip up for me. So, it has characteristics of a FL Redbelly and
a Pine Woods Snake. Any thoughts? The first two pics is of one of my redbellies for comparision.

The snake in question....



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Jenea

2:3:1 Tricolor Hognose
2:2 Eastern Hognose
1:2 Western Hognose
1:2 Southern Hognose
0:0:3 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

It's a FL Brown Snake...

Far from a pine woods snake.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 7/29!!!
www.captivebredforum.com

Beg to differ, but I am far from the FL Brown snakes range. Not to mention, it is not patterned, nor does it have the light collar on the back of its head. And no, not far from a Pine Woods snake according to the pics I have viewed and the species description (though the keeled/smooth scales did pose a question or two) That is why I wondered if an ingrade was even possible. It matters not any more, the little guy did not make it. I am afraid he was in that building to long, and there is also the possibility of coming into contact with pesticides... Very sad...
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Jenea

2:3:1 Tricolor Hognose
2:2 Eastern Hognose
1:2 Western Hognose
1:2 Southern Hognose
0:0:3 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

Ok then it's a red belly snake... It's still Storeria... Still basically the same.

Either way it is VERY far from a pine woods snake. Pine woods and storeria pretty much don't look alike except for the fact they are usually both a brown color.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 7/29!!!
www.captivebredforum.com

I believe it to be a FL redbelly but I can be wrong obviously. A key, to me, is the light/white spot on the labial just behind and beneath the eye. Yours has it too doesn't it?
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

Redbelly snakes sometimes lack the red belly, as odd as that sounds. Everything else about it is redbelly. The shape of the head, for example, seems pure storeria to me. I'm sorry it didn't live.

Billy
Philly