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Soldier fly larvae culture information

spredluvin Aug 17, 2006 11:53 AM

There is a species of soldier fly that resides in the Northeastern United States that seems to depend upon manure for its reproductive life cycle. I'm no entomologist, and I cannot identify the particular species, or the nutritional content of its larvae.

A neighbor called me one day to alert me to the fact that his rabbit hutch was booming with maggots. I keep various critters that like to eat bugs, and I will sometimes collect maggots, freeze them to kill off parasites, and feed them to whoever is willing (it's a disgusting practice). Upon inspection of the floor below this hutch, it was in fact squirming with life. These were no normal maggots, though. They looked amazingly like Soldier fly larvae. I collected all that I could, froze most of them, and set up a jar with rabbit droppings in which to raise several to adulthood. Several weeks later, I had adult soldier flies in the jar. I've been able to raise two generations of soldier flies using fresh rabbit droppings. Due to the fact that rabbits commonly carry parasites (coccidia for one), I have not fed non-frozen larvae to my charges.

I am currently trying to work out an agreement with a local university to regularly pick up the droppings from the various rodentia which they house in their laboratory. These animals are kept in controlled laboratory conditions. I will only take droppings from young animals that are being raised for future research and have NEVER been given medications or any research treatments. An added bonus...they regularly test their animals for parasites.

Take this information lightly. I am no expert. Hopefully, those of you who wish to culture soldier fly larvae may find this information useful. It is only meant to help, not instruct.

Replies (7)

LisaOKC Aug 18, 2006 04:52 PM

See below where soldier fly larva is used to recycle "coffee pulp". Phoenix worms supposedly are raised on some sort of grain, so there ought to be something that would work besides manure.

http://www.food-insects.com/book7_31/Chapter%2004%20C%20America%20and%20Caribb%20Islands.htm

kensopher Aug 18, 2006 08:18 PM

It seems to always come back to manure in the Eastern US. I've heard several cases of people with rabbits and other rodents who keep their charges outdoors and have infestations of Soldier fly maggots. I have a friend who breeds rodents for his large python breeding facility. He keeps the cages in a large "carport". He once called me to let me know that he had thousands of little gray maggot-like larvae that I may want for my turtles. They appear to be very large Soldier fly larvae. Their pupae look identical to phoenix worms, and the adult flies are some sort of Dipterid that looks like a phoenix worm.

At first, he said that he found them in piles of food that had fallen through the cages and built up on the floor. I'm spending the weekend with him at the Daytona show currently, and I just asked him some further questions. He said that there was manure mixed in with the food, and it could very well be possible that this is in fact what the larvae were consuming. As I feed my ornates and deserts dung beetles, I would have little issue with feeding these larvae manure. I could scoop all I wish from my friend. I perform twice-yearly fecal examinations on a representative sample of my collection, and I could correct any parasite infestations. Luckily, most parasites are species specific. There is a low possibility that consuming larvae which are fed manure from mammals would result in chelonian gut parasites. It is possible, though.

"Grain-based diet". Technically, if a mammal is fed grains, wouldn't the manure be considered grain-based? Is this just tricky wording? I may be mistaken, but wasn't Dr. Phoenix involved in a program with hog farmers? Weren't they allowing Soldier fly larvae to consume the hog excrement, then feeding the larvae back to the hogs?

Oh my! Why yes, lookie what Ken found...

http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/enl/vol1n2/article/ibs_conf.pdf#search='soldier%20fly%20pig'

the thick plottens (plot thickens)

StephF Aug 18, 2006 10:18 PM

"the thick plottens (plot thickens)"

Or...the thot plickens.

Thank you Dr. Spooner!

StephF Aug 18, 2006 10:32 PM

Excellent sleuthing, Ken.

I think you're right about the 'grain based diet' being a bit of a leap: using that same rationale, I could say with confidence that I'm a full-fledged vegetarian...

At first I wasn't particularly interested, but now I really am enjoying this exchange.

Thanks to all!

spredluvin Aug 19, 2006 02:27 PM

Since soldier fly larvae are so good at consuming manure, maybe we could all use them to rid ourselves of all of the bull manure that was being written about in the thread below.

streamwalker Aug 21, 2006 05:11 PM

Amen!

Sorry about the post above this one..computer problems..ment to post above.
Enjoy the pics

Ric

streamwalker Aug 21, 2006 05:03 PM

Great find Lisa! Especially a species of soldier fly that feeds on grain!

I did reply to you post below ..late... although..it might have gotten by you..... on........ More Hatchling Ideas........Under Facts and Opinions.

Ric

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