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Daytona temptation

BobS Aug 24, 2006 02:10 PM

I know this is not anything new to many of you and while I try REAL hard to keep my collection small and my focus narrow these days, Had I not flown down, this animal probably would have come home with me. I have seen some Hypo Brooks posted and I see many hatchlings at shows, but to see this guy dazzling in person was VERY different!

Question for you Hypo Brooks breeders: Do all Hypo brooks have to have the abberant body markings or are some available with traditional Brooks markings, just GOLDEN YELLOW like this guy?

Thanks,
Bob
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bluerosy Aug 24, 2006 02:22 PM

Most of the original LOVE stock line looked like that. I bet you it had a yellow belly with no flecks. Most people either outcrossed their lines or crossed them with other hypo lines.

The type you saw at the show was more the norm. Then the pattern and red ones started appearing.

BobS Aug 24, 2006 02:40 PM

Thanks Bluerosy. Any idea where, um hypotheticly a guy could get a pair like this if...um...their resolve maybe weakened? Momentarily.LOL.
Bob

bluerosy Aug 24, 2006 07:21 PM

here is one of my original Love stock. I only have one adult left at this time. Otherwise I bred them to others to get the darker black babies. The more black they are as hatchlings the redder they are as adults. I guess every few years things have a way of coming back.

BobS Aug 24, 2006 07:25 PM

Wow!!!!!!!!!

JETZEN Aug 24, 2006 02:38 PM

looks very close to true patternless, very nice!

crimsonking Aug 24, 2006 06:20 PM

That snake belongs to my friend Bill Schmeideke. We got our originals at the same time from another friend. His are most likely from Love's originals and I have one also. My other more yellow and more "classically banded" one may have been from Beard. At about the same time Krysko and Love as well as Beard all had their first hypos pop up in their breedings. Some have that real aberrant pattern/lack of pattern and hatch out very red-orange. The ones with the more classic brook's look tend to end up yellow. At least in my collection.
We always used the "clear belly test" to get the best hypos, Looking for the ones with the fewest speckles as a key.
A yellow female with that more classic look:

A similar snake to the one above (Bill's), here's my male breeder from Krysko's line.

:Mark

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crimsonking Aug 24, 2006 06:23 PM

full body shot of my male:

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BobS Aug 24, 2006 07:18 PM

The patternless line?

crimsonking Aug 24, 2006 07:26 PM

Not sure I would call them patternless, but that's about as good of a description as there is I guess. I have been breeding them for a few years but my female that looks much like the big male did not lay this year. I get really red babies from that pair.
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BobS Aug 24, 2006 07:16 PM

Wow! Are you currently breeding the normaly patterned ones?

crimsonking Aug 24, 2006 07:28 PM

I still have some that did not go to the wholesaler Sun
One or two very nice (to me) out there....pics when I can get them.
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Lindsay Aug 25, 2006 07:13 AM

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Upscale Aug 25, 2006 08:22 AM

If I recall correctly, the Love “Brooks Canal” stock were famously fine light examples, some would consider “hypo” but were sold as basically normal, just really good ones. It was when the noticeably different ones popped out that the “hypo” tag had to apply. The Love line were simply inbred to refine their “lightness” (hypomelanistic), the Beard line was from a wild caught hypomelanistic? I think that was bred into every available Brooks to mass produce the “hypo” strain, including some “Love” Brooks. (Maybe even some regular “Florida” types too) I would like to see those Love lines preserved and not mixed with everything else, although they are compatible, they might be the finest real Brooks ever produced. Could say the same for their Hypo Everglades Rats and Tangerine Dream Hondurans. Too bad Kathy didn't maintain these lines along with her corn snakes.

crimsonking Aug 25, 2006 01:25 PM





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BobS Aug 25, 2006 01:41 PM

nm

kingsnaken Aug 25, 2006 07:40 PM

Hey Mark, what type of FL is the top one? Awesome!!! Derek

crimsonking Aug 25, 2006 10:13 PM

That's one of the oddball hypos that possibly hatched in the same clutch that yours came from (The yellow female). Without exact id numbers I can't be sure though.
I had to keep that one as it was different from the start. I got none quite like it this year....
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crimsonking Aug 25, 2006 10:21 PM


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