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enuff cali stuff, now it's time for....

JETZEN Aug 25, 2006 04:28 AM

ORANGE BELLY "GOINI".....Ooooooooo,YeeeaAAH! I'd like to see some other's with these,BUT if i'm the only one with em then that's the way it is. Oh-Well.
nov '04

feb '06

jul '06 and thanks for looKING
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Replies (6)

viborero Aug 25, 2006 05:17 AM

That's the stuff right there. If you don't mind my asking, why did you use quotation marks for "GOINI"?
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
0.0.1 Ribbon Snake
1.0.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Albino San Diego Gopher Snake
0.0.1 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
1.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.1.1 California Kingsnakes
1.0.0 Yellowtail Cribo
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
1.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
2.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.1.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

JETZEN Aug 25, 2006 11:12 AM

Because "goini" is an obsolete ssp. name, basicly only used by hobbyists. "brooksi" is another name that is only used by hobbyists. To me "goini" are just a variation of eastern king and "brooksi" are just a variation of florida king. I believe a lot of strange stuff.

viborero Aug 25, 2006 12:07 PM

So what are their names now? Sorry, I've never been good at the whole classification thing.
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
0.0.1 Ribbon Snake
1.0.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Albino San Diego Gopher Snake
0.0.1 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
1.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.1.1 California Kingsnakes
1.0.0 Yellowtail Cribo
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
1.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
2.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.1.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

JETZEN Aug 25, 2006 01:00 PM

According to J.T.Collins/Center of N.American Herpetology, "goini" are meansi now. But like i said b/4 i don't agree with that, and there is a growing number that also don't agree with it. It's all good anyway, people call their snakes what they want, they always have.

"brooksi" was changed years ago and it is now a light phased/southern floridana.

Qualified herpetologists have told me that sub-specifics are on the way out, so i guess it don't mean ****,lol! anyway.

viborero Aug 25, 2006 06:59 PM

I see...It almost seems pointless to learn subs, since they always seem to be in "debate" by all the experts.
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
0.0.1 Ribbon Snake
1.0.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Albino San Diego Gopher Snake
0.0.1 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
1.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.1.1 California Kingsnakes
1.0.0 Yellowtail Cribo
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
1.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
2.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.1.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

JETZEN Aug 26, 2006 01:46 AM

Unless you are really intrested then it's pointless, taxonomy is not a permanantly exact science but a temporary science meaning that the names of taxon are constantly changing, taxonomy has always been like that. I don't like it as much as i did when i was a kid.

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