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I just imported a shipment from Germany and accepted a nice pair of pair of Horseshoe racers. These are quite attractive racers, the female being the black larger specimen and the male the smaller brown specimen.

Dan

Is that the species of snake you saw cooking in a cage at that one store? Pretty nice looking snakes, that would be such a waste.

How much did you get them for?
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Mike
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Yea, there was specimen of this species in a store on consignment and a heat bulb inside the cage was cooking it for weeks. The snake was pacing back and fourth rubbing its face for months. I urged the staff to remove the heat bulb and allow the snake to relax, but they failed to do so. Being concerned, I eventually informed the owner of the snake. The fellow seemed disinterested in helping the snake and relayed that it received thermal burns. But like I said, he seemed disinterested and was only concerned with getting a high dollar for it. He did nothing for the snake and allowed it to remain in those conditions. That snake eventually died at the hands of its owner. They could not sell it sick and injured, so the store threw it back at him as he deserved.

As far as for what I paid, these are rather inexpensive snakes considering the market these day. I paid 50 bucks each. I recall someone mentioning they were CITES protected and was trying to scam for more money, but these are common and inexpensive. Much less they are not CITES protected.

Dan

Is that the species of snake you saw cooking in a cage at that one store?

Pretty nice looking snakes, that would be such a waste.

How much did you get them for?
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 8/24!!!
www.captivebredforum.com

Thanks for the info.

Cool snakes though, sucks about what happened to the one at the store. I think these guys look more like corn snakes than racers.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 8/24!!!
www.captivebredforum.com

This snake is protected in Europe by the Bern Convention, like CITES an international agreement to protect and regulate European Wildlife.

The large range of this snake (Europe-N. Africa) places it into a similar situation as our own kingsnakes, with specimens regionally varying from rather plain brown blotched to the most beautiful solid black with yellow spottingand a salmon venter.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

An interesting thing about the story related above which was discussed on KS on the Ethics thread in the Ven forum. At least four versions of the story have been circulated by a party who wished to own the snake. In each version the facts oddly differ.

The thing is those Emails were saved and copies presented to the store mentioned.

One of particular interest is one where this person demanded payment of $75. "to make it go away." (his harrassment).

Again, copies of these Emails are saved for interested parties.

That's the problem with putting things on a perminent record. It comes back to bite one on the ass.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."